Making it Better: The future of WP

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We have very varying levels of social skills and relying on moderators can be the best choice in some situations, especially for those who know they are not very skilled in handling conflicts, for any reason.
In case mods are missing something, Moderator Attention thread and "report" buttons have been created.

I can't understand why you are so insistent on the "mods always know best" approach without thinking about the implications of it.

Nevermind.

When the options available are the Mods or the Mobs, I definitely prefer the former.

And the mobs are essentially powerless, even with virtual torches and pitchforks. We can't ban users, lock threads, delete posts...

Mobs can make drama skyrocket.

I see things along the same lines.

I don't know if it's true but it has been said here the mod team cannot agree on how to moderate Fnord (he's not the only one) and as a result, they just stopped moderating him altogether. Because of this, you either get people like smudge who get frustrated with him, or the extremes: a lynching mob forms once in a while asking for his hide, battling those who think he can do no wrong even when he does and will defend him accordingly

Fnord will react aggressively when attacked and I can't blame him for it, but he wouldn't be put in this position if he would get a polite message from the mods telling him when and where he breaks the rules. He might be difficult but responds to reason

This is a moderation issue that shouldn't fall on the community and especially new members shouldn't be left to fend for themselves.

Many Aspies have received an inordinate amount of bullying in our lifetimes. Sometimes Aspies develop defensive mechanisms to protect themselves. Fnord is expressed as CONTRARIANISM.

A contrarian is a person who takes an opposing view, especially one who rejects the majority opinion.

The problem with a contrarian is that many people feel that when they are challenged they are put on the spot, they have to go on the attack and then a back and forth ensues and the rhetoric increases in intensity and hatred.

I think that if most people understood his contrarian nature, they might not perceive it as a personal attack in the first place..

What is it that Fnord does that so many people find to be so very objectionable? I've been here for more than 5 years now and read plenty of his posts, and don't think I've ever seen him post anything worthy of this sort of persistent and unilateral exception-taking. I could name several members whose presense on these boards is significantly less constructive than Fnords is.

I don't understand this thread so I searched the forum for Fnord to see what the fuss is about , maybe it's this https://wrongplanet.net/author/fnord/ , if he openly admits to admonishing posters that could be the issue. Having said that how can one poster changing their behaviour make a forum better.

I might be wrong but I think the OP refers mainly to heat of discussion related to current political situation in the US, especially connected to the BLM movement. The discussions became too intense, including exchanges of personal or semi-personal attacks. That, as I understand, resulted in some users banned and some other users leaving willingly. Personally, I regret both.

Although have seen some overLy frank , but not necessarily hateful observations , have found the entire group
Of people here to Be earnest in there observations overall . With exception of some rather new people who have recently posted on here IN a very few of the threads , I frequent .

I'll say this again...

If anyone has evidence of an infraction of The Rules, then please present links to that evidence to the Moderators or Alex.

I insist.

Just get your facts straight first!

I do not have to make up anything when there has been a clear violation of The Rules.

(I do not have to defend myself to mob rule, either.)

However, other people seem to be making up lies about me for trying to help the mods maintain some sense of order.

It seems to me that anger is being misplaced here. From what I can gather the biggest issue seems to be how members are moderated or not moderated.

I think moderating discussions is a much better approach than trying to moderate members.

You know how to stay in the ballpark of the grey areas of the rules.Are you going to say that in real life off the web,if you say something cruel to someone it's ok because you didn't break a law.

Last edited by envirozentinel on 31 Jul 2020, 1:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.: personal remarks removed