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It was Graelwyn who complained to me about “do-nothing-mods,” after the fact. I believe you did the best you could with the instructions you were given.



What I mean is that Alex has historically had much less patience for this sort of thing than I have had, i.e. I have historically demonstrated much more patience for this sort of thing than he has. Btw, calandale, I try not to criticize when I don’t have an alternative to offer, like “Maybe you should offer an alternative with your criticism, instead of just the criticism.” Otherwise people are left to speculate, like “So I shouldn’t make people aware that Alex has historically demonstrated far less patience for this sort of thing than I have?”



If you feel that I have handled your complaint less than fairly, you may appeal to Alex. He has reversed decisions I have made in the past.



And who would that be? Me? Apparently not.


As I told you before, I was unaware of that situation until after the fact. I only found the Globe Mod thread a few weeks ago. That was when I used the search term “mrmark” and found your parting rant. As I said then, helluva way to get my attention.

MrMark, who was this member banned for speaking out against you by Alex? Also, keep an eye out in the GM and WP Discussion forums for any complaints or referrals. I believe that is what those forums are for. As much as we look around, we also rely on a good deal of member-based reporting. While I do agree that your thread was intended as a panacea to this mistrust of you, it can also be read as officious, like arrest figures. Whether you get rid of it or not is up to civil discussion between you and other members. Couldn't we have a 'complaints recieved' general thread? As a full modship collaboration thread?

Graelwyn, think about your own faults carefully before you accuse others.

Oh, and because I cannot resist chucking in a total non-sequitur in Latin to lighten the mood, Delenda Carthago!

It was andy1976uk. I looked for the thread, but apparently Alex removed it. It was one of those things along the lines of "Who thinks so-n-so should be banned?" He basically imploded. "Dyonisian dis-memberment," Starr called it.

Ahhhhhh......

He was banned shortly after I came back from 'sabbatical', before I was made a mod. I noticed he was new. Ditto with the one who became the Drooling Megalomaniac. It wasn't long after I came back that they were shown the door. Sorry, I meant ejected through it.

"Dyonisian dismemberment"? Care to fill me in?

"A banning is a train, comin’ down the track. A warning is the train whistle.
If you don’t want to get hit by the train, step off the track when you here the whistle.
You can resume your dangerous walk down the track when the train has passed.
Everyon"

Cool signature, can I use it too?



Can somebody answer me this question??? Is MrMark the head of all mods?

Is he your superior Quatermass?

As far as I am concerned, I only consider Alex to be my superior (hierarchally speaking). MrMark is a colleague.

well, he doesn't seem to act like a colleague to other mods much, many people here must wonder why, I'm not the only one.

But if all of you are ok with that, I guess that's fine, I believe Alex wasn't to happy with some of Mr Good Mark actions, so I hope things get better.

Ah, but she was a special case. Even Alex made it
clear to us, at the end, that he saw the disagreements
with staff were to be more tolerated. Her position as
a moderator made everything far more complicated.




Ah. Not surprising. I do hope that now that both
you and he are actively trying to run the site again,
he is able to allow the freedom a chance to progress.
It was doing fairly well, except for a bit of exhuberance
on some people's parts. I think that cutting those threads
apart might have been the best solution, but I wasn't even
certain that there WAS a problem. Though, as I stated earlier,
it probably is more effective to add a public statement into one
of the posts, indicating the why of the cuts, even if not criticising.
It always gets asked anyway.



Presuming, of course, that the statements I made
were not achieving the effect that I wish? Which is
a subtle reminder of what seemed to be the decision
at the time of my leaving. I can no longer put pressure
from inside, but a lighter touch out here should serve
just as well. Ah, I'm not being a pain for no reason -
I really do think that the site will run best in this manner.



I didn't know that I had a complaint.
Oh oh.


As it should have been.

Threads like those should probably be
killed on site, IMHO.

I never quite had the energy to note
it, but it does portray an interesting
philosophy - it's not what you do, but
how you cower before authority which
is the important factor.

Nicely put, in this case, I think.

He was here longer. Has some additional authority.
Some have gone so far as to suggest that all other
mods should have been removed, so he certainly
has supporters amongst the membership - a dangerous
burden to bear, and still keep one's integrity, I believe;
luckily, I disabused any who thought I was ever of value,
as quickly as I could.

Ah, and I believe that that was his take on the issue.
I don't know if it still is, or to what extent it was ever
Alex's view.

No, I'd say a better analogy is like pissing off a cobra. A cobra will display it's crest and hiss at you. The best thing to do is to back off. The difference between the train analogy and a cobra analogy is that a cobra will go back to normal if you back off, whereas a train just keeps on going along the tracks, regardless.

Still not the way to induce much more
than fear in the membership.

True, but a better analogy than a train. A train implies inevitability, whereas a potential banee can back off from a cobra and avoid a banning.

No offence to MrMark, of course.

I thought it was Janicka who was banned for speaking out against Mr Mark
Or maybe she just got demodded for it?

I think Janicka wanted to be demodded as a protest. I wasn't around at the time.