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It's not exactly what I am getting at lol, I am saying give them there room alone and they will act just like men when they are alone. From personal views, every girl I ME have ever met is like that.

At the outset, my posts were addressing this particular assertion by Dianthus : It happens largely because there are generally more male babies born than female, so in younger age groups there is a surplus of males. However women generally have a longer life expectancy than men. As age increases, so does the ratio of single women.

What am I trying to tell Dianthus ? That the explanation for why there are more men who are single in young adulthood than women is not as simplistic as all that. A whole percent more males may be born than females, but that does not mean that more males than females make it to young adulthood. Also, how exactly is "single" defined ? What about homosexual individuals in the population who are *not* looking for a partner of the opposite gender ? What about individuals who are so severely disabled that they will not be looking for partners of any sex ? When you adjust the "numbers" to include these scenarios, it is apparent that it does not really matter there is 1% more live male births than females at any given time. SO, you see, I strongly suggest that you actually understand what is being debated before attempting to intrude on a discussion that you are not a party to, in an attempt to "educate" me on facts vs opinion. Of course, you are entitled to be a prick, but given your nasty prior interactions with me, there's nothing new about that.

This thread is degenerating.
I don't see how the discussion of female to male ratios has any relation to the original topic.
Maybe I'm missing something?

No, you're merely detecting the mother of all hijacks.

This thread is deteriorating, yet is still amusing.

The rules for the Women's Discussion forum state:

Please note this particular phrase:


This is the section that calls for judgment. Please bear in mind that while it calls for males to refrain from posting unless they have positive, insightful information to contribute, it also calls for members to refrain from creating "Women Only" threads unless there is a compelling reason to do so.

Simply wanting to discuss some topic in a gender exclusive environment is not a compelling reason to create a such a thread.

Examples of topics that should not be tagged "Women Only:"
Women Only: Trump holds slight lead in Iowa poll
Meltdowns while driving (Women Only)
Women Only: Do you collect unusual things?

etc.

I think this tag is a bad idea as I have posted here:

viewtopic.php?t=303184&p=6980577#p6980577

I just see this causing more issue than it is worth, it is a can of worms which would be attractive to militants attitudes.

Describe "compelling reason" is this compelling?:
viewtopic.php?t=305125

Those that feel strongly about the tag are going to want to use it much of the time. I think using it to discuss issues particularly about men in general is going to cause tensions naturally.

This rule was widely ignored and forgotten about, now it is flavour of the month I only see this ending in tears. They are going to attract the wrong kind of interest from people trying to inflame, militants or those that want to make unsubstantiated claims in the hope they aren't challenged.

I have no problem with controversial topics. I think if a topic involves a group as a whole that demographic should be allowed to participate. However I think the whole idea of these tag is flawed anyway. Moderation should be done based on the OP, and the nature of the discussion.

It would be good to get Alex's input on this.

IMO if there there was such a compelling reason why such topics could only be discussed amongst one gender, then in that case this is not a good platform for that for practical reasons. Instead useful information should be posted as to where to find such services.

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We wouldn't need a "Women Only" tag if the some of the men here were more respectful of what the women have to go through. A lot of them refuse to ever understand, and a lot of people treat the trolls as if they are just uneducated.

I don't know of any "uneducated" men here who have ever been convinced that what they are saying is sexist.

..and they are not for men? WP can't solve every societal ill. However we are not going to change attitudes by reinforcing them by limiting dialogue. If people can challenge bigoted ideas then that is positive. No platforming just provides justification, it doesn't make the problem go away.

You assertion just not true. Of of course I get that traumatic experiences are traumatic. However the nature of mental illness due to trauma and its treatment can be counter intuitive (or not if you have taken an interest in the psychology).

When will people get that such restrictions don't help.

Even regarding the "trigger warning" and "safe spaces" issue I have posted the scientific evidence of how this are not good for the treatment of PSTD long term, and even so the terms have been widely been abused in university settings and elsewhere to stifle debate and promote idea likes segregation, not something Nora Parks of Martin Luther King jr would have advocated. This is what can happen if ideas cannot be scrutinised.

Such groups also gernalise about the type of mental illness people who suffer a traumatic even might get. PTSD is not the only one and is not a given. This is what the actual research shows.

I've been sexually assaulted a few times. I went into one of those sexual abuse recovery as sites at one point. It was useless.

Not to offend anyone, but it was like a giant "pity party". Trigger warnings here and there, no one was allowed to say anything that could possibly be construed as unsupportive, and I know there were some fakes on there looking for attention and sympathy.

Many just seemed to want to be coddled, and validated, and to wallow in their own misery rather than try to recover. There were people there saying that they actually didn't want to have sex with their partner, but didn't bother telling him, and that they then felt "raped" as a result.

I'd much rather talk about my experiences here, and get real feedback and advice from both men and women. I'm not some delicate little flower that's going to get depressed because a man says something inappropriate or inconsiderate.

I have no problem telling a person here if I find their post to be inappropriate, nor would I have any problem reporting posts that go too far in breaking the rules.

I want to point out I in no way want to trivialise traumatic events or sexual assault.

Some of the women here really like to shoot themselves in the foot. Another reason this place is crap.

So the women who do feel uncomfortable are just not as tough enough as you and should just suck it up? And put up with some of the BS (a few) men here come up with like women have it easier? How selfish. You are also comparing the women on here to those in just *your* experience.

I'm glad. I don't think you are like that. Although I disagree with what you are saying, at least you are being mostly diplomatic.

My eyes are rolling so much they're about to roll out of their sockets.

No, I was comparing myself to the women in another site.

And relating my own personal experience, and the way I feel about men being in a women's forum.

I'm not sure how any of that is related to the other women here.

You really are reading way too much into my post.

I'm entitled to feel however I want to about anything, and to share how I personally feel about an issue as it pertains to me.

A total unnecessary overreaction on your part to your interpretation of the meaning of my post.

Guess what? I was there, and you were not. You know sh*t about what actually happened, who was there, and who I was talking about, and you know nothing about me. Mind your own business.