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One of the problems is marrying theory with reality. Any movement can have its theory.

Ok I think this matter is dealt with for now.

Just make your own women's only forum if you want it.
It's easy to make a forum.
WP has plenty of people who would be interested in joining, it seems.

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For me, this idea of females being allowed to respond to a certain thread while males can't is similar to e.g. white people being allowed to post while black people can't, because in both situations, the "rules" of the thread say "it's okay for one group but not okay for the other". A white people can/black people can't thread would not fly on any forum, so I have trouble understand why a females can/male can't thread would.

Also, the mods can't punish someone for posting in a thread in which someone else doesn't want them to post in.

The "women's discussion" forum says women "can feel safe to be themselves". Not once does it say, "Only women can post here" or "No men allowed". I think, as with WP's other forums, everyone should be allowed to post in the "women's discussion" forum as long as they don't post anything prejudicial, hurtful or anything that is against WP rules. The OPs of the threads can take and ignore each piece of advice they receive as they see appropriate.

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Adamantium: Imagine for a minute that it is possible that there are some valid reasons for the perception of this need and that it is not equivalent to racially segregated threads. What might those reasons be?

I do understand that a member may post a thread about an issue which they feel that only a certain group could give the most reliable answer to. For example, if someone was to post a thread asking about periods, of course reliable answers are likely to come from girls and women, because they experience periods first hand. So I would understand why they may ask for responses from females only, and I wouldn't have a problem with that. However, it is possible that a male might be able to give some reliable advice, for example, if they were a gynecologist.

Adamantium: viewtopic.php?t=141113

It doesn't say that men are not allowed to post there, full stop. They can post in "women only" threads, if they feel they have valid advice to contribute.

Valid Advice: Men, when you encounter a thread labeled "Women Only", rather than risk offending certain people with your male presence, simply start a similar thread in an appropriate sub-forum, add a poll, invite everyone to participate, and request "No attack posts, please".

Don't just duplicate the subject line and the first post; instead, paraphrase or re-phrase both, or come up with a meta-subject that includes the "Women Only" subject as a sub-topic. No one has a monopoly on subject matter, anyway, so why not give it a try?

This way, women can participate in their thread without fear of male presence, and they can also participate in your thread along with everyone else on this website.

As long as you don't duplicate the original thread exactly, and you don't post the new thread as a direct rebuttal to the original thread, you are not likely to be in violation of the rules.

I was only using that as an example.

There might also be legitimate reasons to exclude people not of a particular race, social class, cultural background, IQ range, number of fingers, .... The possibilities are endless, all for the sake of excluding.

False allegations are a fact of life. Any public inquiry is susceptible to it. Also false accusation will be made against people for various reasons. Not everybody is an upstanding member of society.

It has nothing to do with victims, it is not their fault. It obviously very frustrating in a real investigation to have people disrupting the process.

Btw it has nothing to with numbers the legal principle should still apply if there was just 0.001% of false allegations.

Then there are those that don't identify an abuser, but claim to have suffered abuse. It can be a personality disorder, or part of mental illness.

People claim to be sick when they aren't. Heck, people falsely claim to commit crimes they couldn't have. It take all sorts.

Back on subject. I seek clarification on the "compelling reasons".

I was informed by a moderator that the "Women Only" tag is subject to moderation and there has to be "compelling reasons" to use it.

Also I was told that one such thread didn't qualify, yet it remains unchanged.

What exactly qualifies as compelling and how is this to be moderated?

I think if general/broad a subject is discussed involving a large demographic, this is not a good use of such tags.

Public information posts should not limited.

I also think diversions in Women Only threads should be moderated an split of, especially if the change of subject is not appropriate for such a tag. Otherwise this is abusing the tag.

I also think the compelling reasons has to be evident in the content. I don't think it would be right if the topic is general, but they justify it privately by something which not covered.