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20 Mar 2007, 11:58 pm

Yay! I'm glad someone has that. There are other sections that don't show on the moderator list as well though. Do you have power in them too? Someone should.

EDIT: looks like we all do. This is good.



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25 Mar 2007, 10:35 pm

alex wrote:
We used to have "permanent" moderators and they all got burned out.

I don't recall GalileoAce getting "burned out". He just got banned with no explanation.



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25 Mar 2007, 10:37 pm

alex wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
I think a suitable punishment would be to re-set their post counts, or deduct posts. The best moderation in my opinion is casual moderation.

A bad moderator is someone that acts like a dictator or someone that thinks they're a cut above everyone else. I was casual at modding and pretty much everyone was happy. The only reason I don't mod now is because this one bitchy girl (may I mention, a hitler with a pretty face) snapped me on intechnicalities.


yeah basically my idea is that mods dont play police, they play firefighter.

also, you shouldn't be proud of being a moderator as my criteria for picking moderators isn't based on how good of a moderator i think you'd be and more of randomness. Also, being a moderator isn't permanent. We used to have "permanent" moderators and they all got burned out.

but if a moderator overmoderates, i'll probably just fire him or something.

mods really don't have much to do other than deleting spam


I never got "burned out". I resent that blatant accusation! I was removed as moderator, and then banned as a member, for reasons that still have not been told to me.
I don't mind you lying to me, I don't mind you lying to yourself, but please don't lie to WrongPlanet membership.

As I recall, Moderators had more to do than just "deleting spam" we had to control 'brush-fires' when members had disagreements that disrupted the forums, we had to monitor offensive language, offensive posts, and inappropriate content. A bit more than "spam".

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25 Mar 2007, 10:39 pm

And it still says I'm a moderator ffs :roll:



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25 Mar 2007, 11:09 pm

GalileoAce wrote:

As I recall, Moderators had more to do than just "deleting spam" we had to control 'brush-fires' when members had disagreements that disrupted the forums, we had to monitor offensive language, offensive posts, and inappropriate content. A bit more than "spam".

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Yeah, but we're in the odd position of wanting to do that, but not secure in our existence if we do.



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25 Mar 2007, 11:19 pm

GalileoAce wrote:
And it still says I'm a moderator ffs :roll:


I keep coming across people with the moderator title as I go through older pages, but I have not seen any of them posting since I joined so am assuming they left.


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25 Mar 2007, 11:52 pm

Graelwyn wrote:
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And it still says I'm a moderator ffs :roll:


I keep coming across people with the moderator title as I go through older pages, but I have not seen any of them posting since I joined so am assuming they left.


Many, if not all, were banned at one stage. Alex had banned the entire moderating team. As you can see I can access the site now, I assume many of them can too, but choose not to. There are plenty of other ASD community forums out there.



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26 Mar 2007, 12:03 am

calandale wrote:
GalileoAce wrote:

As I recall, Moderators had more to do than just "deleting spam" we had to control 'brush-fires' when members had disagreements that disrupted the forums, we had to monitor offensive language, offensive posts, and inappropriate content. A bit more than "spam".

:roll:


Yeah, but we're in the odd position of wanting to do that, but not secure in our existence if we do.


There are many of us who left during a very rancorous period, a time when almost every single moderator got banned. It was a dark period, and I am happy that things have become more polite around here. However, you new members/moderators should heed Galileo Ace's comments. It's probably better to undermoderate than overmoderate at this point. (Just basing that thought on Alex's post about being a firefighter rather than a policeman).

(Waves to renaeden and galileoace)



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26 Mar 2007, 12:08 am

I'm trying. I really am. It's just very difficult to make the decision not to remove something which is blatantly offensive, or likely to start a flame war. My only hope is that I don't get banned for using overactive judgement. I don't really care if I'm a mod or not - it's neither something that I asked for, nor deserved in any way, after all.



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26 Mar 2007, 12:23 am

aylissa wrote:
(Waves to renaeden and galileoace)


:: waves back :: :)



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26 Mar 2007, 1:36 am

My personal reaction to a post which could start a flame war or such thing, if I were a mod, would be to give a warning about it below about deletion. Give 'em time to edit it, but if they don't care (either by leaving it as is or just by their posting history) I'd burninate it or give a disclaimer below, like "This post was obviously written in rage, and if any users wish to get upset over it, they do so at their own risk.

From there, it's business as usual. (MODERATED!!)


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26 Mar 2007, 2:07 am

That's very close to where my own feelings would drive me. But it does seem in conflict with what we are expected to be doing. Honestly, I think that this large mass of mods is here almost exclusively to kill the potential of spamming - and not the normal kind which is prevelant throughout this site, but rather the attacks like those which ATOMIKA and such perpatrated. If it were made absolutely clear that that is all that we are to do - ignore pornographic and inflamatory posts - well, that would be easy enough. But some vagueness has been left in - perhaps intentionally, and it is here that I wonder. But, the best rule seems to be: if at all in doubt, do nothing. Now, if only I can follow that.



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26 Mar 2007, 2:32 am

I am sure we will be told if we are doing anything wrong.
On all the forums I have been a member of, the moderator was there to keep order and to deal with inappropriate things being posted, things being posted in the wrong area, keeping things moving as in starting new topics if they ran dry and answering any problems members had, as well as dealing with trolls, of course. It was a carefully defined job with a carefully defined list of dos and donts.


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26 Mar 2007, 6:29 am

It should be noted that whilst I was a moderator there were several... "unstable" members on WrongPlanet who were constantly bickering with each other. It wasn't fun for moderators or members. I assume that most of them has since moved onto other sites that would cater to their... "unique" personalities.



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26 Mar 2007, 6:46 am

Good luck to the Mods, I know it's tough sometimes because there are times when you're dammed if you do and dammed if you don't - in terms of taking action.


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26 Mar 2007, 2:02 pm

Speaking of over-moderation... where did my posts go?

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... sc&start=0