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09 Sep 2007, 6:45 pm

Just because you weren't here
at the time of those posts, doesn't
mean that we should suffer through
them again. Look to those who were
around. He was amusing as hell, but
probably over the line WAY too much.



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09 Sep 2007, 6:46 pm

calandale wrote:
Just because you weren't here
at the time of those posts, doesn't
mean that we should suffer through
them again. Look to those who were
around. He was amusing as hell, but
probably over the line WAY too much.

What lines did he cross? Asides, surely people can take a joke?



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09 Sep 2007, 6:50 pm

Trolling, flaming, borderline racism,
pretty much anything you want to name,
he probably pushed the envelope on.

When we add everything up, it was a
consistent history of posts which, while
none where bannable offenses on their own,
shows a poster who was probably doing more
harm than good.



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09 Sep 2007, 7:03 pm

calandale wrote:
Trolling, flaming, borderline racism,
pretty much anything you want to name,
he probably pushed the envelope on.

When we add everything up, it was a
consistent history of posts which, while
none where bannable offenses on their own,
shows a poster who was probably doing more
harm than good.

The first two sound like they could be tough love, and the borderline racism satire that went over many heads. Nothing wrong with pushing the envelope as such. Maybe some of the other members of the website needed to grow up a little, and rise to his level, as opposed to the other way around.



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09 Sep 2007, 7:23 pm

Hadron wrote:
calandale wrote:
Trolling, flaming, borderline racism,
pretty much anything you want to name,
he probably pushed the envelope on.

When we add everything up, it was a
consistent history of posts which, while
none where bannable offenses on their own,
shows a poster who was probably doing more
harm than good.

The first two sound like they could be tough love, and the borderline racism satire that went over many heads. Nothing wrong with pushing the envelope as such. Maybe some of the other members of the website needed to grow up a little, and rise to his level, as opposed to the other way around.


With all due respect, you weren't here at that time. You can't really judge who was at fault, as you saw neither side.


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09 Sep 2007, 7:27 pm

Hadron wrote:
The first two sound like they could be tough love, and the borderline racism satire that went over many heads. Nothing wrong with pushing the envelope as such. Maybe some of the other members of the website needed to grow up a little, and rise to his level, as opposed to the other way around.



Yeah, but with the amount of his posts
which got deleted, he had PLENTY of warning.
Not only, but I repeatedly warned him that he
was cutting it a bit too close, and likely to
manage to draw a ban. He'd pull back a bit,
but then go back to his tricks.

And yeah, I know we weren't supposed to
give warnings. So ban me. I had him judged
pretty well, and knew that he didn't want a ban.
There was nothing threatening about my statements,
more done as a co-conspirator.



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09 Sep 2007, 8:33 pm

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I'm more upset that Janika was never unbanned.
i kindof agree, why am i still around? i was alot worse than she was. i'll gladly take her place if its appropriate :)


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09 Sep 2007, 8:34 pm

richardbenson wrote:
calandale wrote:
I'm more upset that Janika was never unbanned.
i kindof agree, why am i still around? i was alot worse than she was. i'll gladly take her place if its appropriate :)


You're just too cute and lovable to
stay banned. Plus, you cleaned up
your act a lot.



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09 Sep 2007, 8:35 pm

maybe here not anywhere else, the darkside is still strong young jedi


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10 Sep 2007, 7:02 am

RainSong wrote:
Hadron wrote:
calandale wrote:
Trolling, flaming, borderline racism,
pretty much anything you want to name,
he probably pushed the envelope on.

When we add everything up, it was a
consistent history of posts which, while
none where bannable offenses on their own,
shows a poster who was probably doing more
harm than good.

The first two sound like they could be tough love, and the borderline racism satire that went over many heads. Nothing wrong with pushing the envelope as such. Maybe some of the other members of the website needed to grow up a little, and rise to his level, as opposed to the other way around.


With all due respect, you weren't here at that time. You can't really judge who was at fault, as you saw neither side.

I have talked to Kosmo quite a lot since, and I have quite a good measure of the guy. I also have an idea what some of the other members are like. The other thing is that I lurked for a time with another account, so I have seen some of his posts here.



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10 Sep 2007, 7:03 am

calandale wrote:
Hadron wrote:
The first two sound like they could be tough love, and the borderline racism satire that went over many heads. Nothing wrong with pushing the envelope as such. Maybe some of the other members of the website needed to grow up a little, and rise to his level, as opposed to the other way around.



Yeah, but with the amount of his posts
which got deleted, he had PLENTY of warning.
Not only, but I repeatedly warned him that he
was cutting it a bit too close, and likely to
manage to draw a ban. He'd pull back a bit,
but then go back to his tricks.

And yeah, I know we weren't supposed to
give warnings. So ban me. I had him judged
pretty well, and knew that he didn't want a ban.
There was nothing threatening about my statements,
more done as a co-conspirator.

I think he should be given another chance. It would save him making all those sock puppets.



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10 Sep 2007, 7:11 am

calandale wrote:
I'm more upset that Janika was never unbanned.
She had one brief period of harsh reaction to her
demodding, and an otherwise pretty damned good
member disappeared.

Janika is banned? Isn't she the one with the violin player in her avatar?



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10 Sep 2007, 7:20 am

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I have talked to Kosmo quite a lot since, and I have quite a good measure of the guy. I also have an idea what some of the other members are like. The other thing is that I lurked for a time with another account, so I have seen some of his posts here.


Not enough obviously.


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10 Sep 2007, 7:58 am

Quatermass wrote:
Hadron wrote:

I have talked to Kosmo quite a lot since, and I have quite a good measure of the guy. I also have an idea what some of the other members are like. The other thing is that I lurked for a time with another account, so I have seen some of his posts here.


Not enough obviously.

Or I have a different perspective to you. Yes some of Kosmos posts were outrageous, but I dont think they were bad enough to be banned.



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10 Sep 2007, 8:17 am

Hadron wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
Hadron wrote:

I have talked to Kosmo quite a lot since, and I have quite a good measure of the guy. I also have an idea what some of the other members are like. The other thing is that I lurked for a time with another account, so I have seen some of his posts here.


Not enough obviously.

Or I have a different perspective to you. Yes some of Kosmos posts were outrageous, but I dont think they were bad enough to be banned.


The ones that were bad enough to be removed immediately are the ones you didn't see. You can argue all you want about whether or not Kosmo should have been banned, but you don't have anything to base your assumptions on other than conjecture and uninformed personal feelings.


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10 Sep 2007, 8:26 am

alex wrote:
Hadron wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
Hadron wrote:

I have talked to Kosmo quite a lot since, and I have quite a good measure of the guy. I also have an idea what some of the other members are like. The other thing is that I lurked for a time with another account, so I have seen some of his posts here.


Not enough obviously.

Or I have a different perspective to you. Yes some of Kosmos posts were outrageous, but I dont think they were bad enough to be banned.


The ones that were bad enough to be removed immediately are the ones you didn't see. You can argue all you want about whether or not Kosmo should have been banned, but you don't have anything to base your assumptions on other than conjecture and uninformed personal feelings.

Could you PM me a couple of choice examples? I wouldnt say I was as ill informed as you are implying, I have talked to the guy on other sites. Nothing he posts on Intensity or Zomg seems too bad to me if it were to be posted on here.