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BlackjackGabbiani
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12 Dec 2008, 4:17 am

oblio wrote:

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

All words are used to convey thoughts, and

I fail to see how thoughts professed using words of varying strengths are valid.

i am still working on this one, the second clause of this complex sentence that is....

[although..: are single words 'thoughts'...?]

[I] [fail to see]
[[how are X valid]]
X = [thoughts professed]
[using words of varying strengths]

i think i will be working on this one for time to come...

i knew language is but grammatically structured nonsense,
i do however enjoy the occasional syntactical clarity

I was saying that I don't see how being forced to use a word of a lesster strength than what you intend results in you making the same point. Changing the words, especially words chosen for specific meanings and connotations, changes the entire thrust of what you're saying. Therefore, using "g-rated" words when your thought requires "r-rated" ruins your entire point.

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12 Dec 2008, 7:53 am

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

I was saying that I don't see how being forced to use a word of a lesster strength than what you intend results in you making the same point.

No one's forcing you to do anything. You're a free person with choices.

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12 Dec 2008, 12:59 pm

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

You're not being forced; you can choose to be here and follow the established rules, or you can choose to go elsewhere and not concern yourself with adhering to that policy.

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12 Dec 2008, 2:37 pm

There are actually very young kids on here, that's why it isn't okay to swear. I believe you can in the adult section though.

I never new about the link thing.

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12 Dec 2008, 4:48 pm

CanyonWind wrote:

Only vaguely related to the topic, and not something I'd bother worrying about, but I find it strange that "aspie" comes up as a spelling error on wrongplanet.

Huh? You have spell check in your posting window? Where is it?

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12 Dec 2008, 5:41 pm

claire333 wrote:

Huh? You have spell check in your posting window? Where is it?

I think it is more likely they are using Firefox, which has a wonderful feature called "inline spell checking". How do you think I manage to maintain my high grammatical standards? It isn't perfect, but even when it doesn't know the correct spelling of something it at least tells you when you've got an error, so you can Google the word and have it say "did you mean this word?", between Firefox and Google there aren't many words you can't find the spelling for.

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12 Dec 2008, 9:44 pm

Dox47 wrote:

claire333 wrote:

Huh? You have spell check in your posting window? Where is it?

The spelling check I use is a doohicky on the Google toolbar on the Microsoft Internet Explorer. I use it constantly to leave no doubt that if a word or phrase is misused or rattle on about something for paragraphs - interminably - the spelling will be immaculate and impeccable even if the concepts aren't.

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13 Dec 2008, 12:18 am

There are tens of thousands of words in the English language. Are you seriously complaining simply because you're asked to refrain from using fewer than a dozen of them, most of those simplistic Anglo-Saxon or Middle English words having to do with either sex or excretion? And are you seriously claiming that without using those particular words, you are completely unable to express your thoughts??

I must say, if this is truly the case, perhaps those thoughts are best left unexpressed anyway...

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13 Dec 2008, 1:34 am

ShadesOfMe wrote:

There are actually very young kids on here, that's why it isn't okay to swear. I believe you can in the adult section though.

I never new about the link thing.

sorry Shades, beside the point

we recently had a six-year old posting a thread I'm 6
which i though very amusing (username xx300 ??)
which created some discussion as to wether this was legal...

sadly, it isn't, i found elsewhere:
there is a legal minimum 13 yoa requirement
- also check the available age-groups of the Kids Krater -

i do not believe profanity is something that at least thirteen year olds
should be 'protected' from -
age should certainly be of no concern to the WP writership
- that's the parental chore of choice

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13 Dec 2008, 3:48 am

13 without parental permission. If the kid's parent(s) actually signed and faxed in a COPPA form, the kid's legal. If not (and I doubt anyone has in living memory), the kid lied on the regform, and a banning is warranted.

This is a very stupid law, but there it is. The saddest thing is, how people cite these younger people who in all likelihood do not have permission to be here as a valid reason to ban "foul" language.

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13 Dec 2008, 12:33 pm

Javid wrote:

WP does not collect private identifying information from the child so the COPPA Law does not apply. We ban foul language because that is the wishes of the owner of this privately owned website.

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13 Dec 2008, 2:15 pm

Chicken soup...Turkey sandwich...Feathers, feathers, feathers.

*Protesting the ban on fowl language*

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14 Dec 2008, 3:09 am

I'm honestly not sure why people get so paranoid about the thought of children hearing/reading certain words. It's always struck me as being extremely overprotective. Why shield them from hearing how people really talk? Hearing someone say "the f-word" (how I hate spelling things out like that) isn't going to destroy someone's life or innocence.

I shudder to think of how these kids react when they start school. Or not even kids--tonight I was at the party of the house of a young man who goes to college full time, and it was brought up at one point that his parents don't let him listen to any music that has "profanity" in it. Where does it end?

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14 Dec 2008, 4:16 am

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

where does what end? Good taste? Appropriate behaviour? Evidently with you. Why shouldn't children have some sort of yardstick by which to measure how they will act when confronted by the world? Just what are they missing by not hearing music with profanity in it?

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14 Dec 2008, 4:33 am

Where does this sheltering from the world end? What is honestly wrong with saying words like that, in particular when other words meaning the same things are allowed? Why is "crap" permitted but "the s-word" will get you massive fines if you say it on American TV?

Moreover, how long do parents like that intend to keep their grown children under their own morality without letting the child develop morals of their own?

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14 Dec 2008, 8:50 am

When will this argument end? It is not going to accomplish anything; only Alex can change the rule and he is not posting here.

Asking why is one thing Blackjack, but arguing about it is something else. If you were to have a rule "no smoking in my house", would you appreciate it if one of your guests were to argue with you claiming he should be allowed to smoke wherever and whenever he wanted?

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