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I don't know that I necessarily agree with this, laws and rules go into effect based on need and what the community desires. Its kinda like a democracy in my opinion, true Alex has final say, but I am sure he and other moderators consider what is being purposed in these types of threads. Point I am making is this, nothing would ever change if someone doesn't step up to complain about something. Laws go into effect because someone purposed said law, laws and rules aren't universally created everywhere.

I think the thread and the opinions in it has merit.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.

If you and Tallyman want to get together and argue about the rules for the Women's Discussion forum, knock yourselves out. I didn't volunteer for that. But I will interpret them to the best of my ability while I am doing this.

If Alex or the other mods want to provide better guidance on how to handle something I'll happily make use of that, in the meantime, I'll just get on with it.

The existing rules provide for a mechanism by which women can ask men not to post in some threads in the women's discussion forum and warns that mods may remove posts that are made despite such requests. Seems pretty straightforward. That some members don't like that is clear, but not something I am going to get into, beyond noting the existing rules and my reading of them.

The existing rules say men can post in the women's forum, but shouldn't break the other rules. Again, seems pretty clear. Some members don't like that either. If they can convince Alex to rewrite the rules, then the new rules will be the thing to go by--right now, I'll go with the existing ones, regardless of particular members utopian visions of alternatives.

Some members don't want any moderation at all, as became clear when OOM voluntarily left WP and founded an alternative site. I guess people who are deeply committed to their utopian visions of an alternative could do the same and see how it works.

If you are talking about me, I don't. I pointed out a man provided useful medical advice. If that is arrogant of him so be it.

Personally I have nothing to offer on that subject, so I would stay out.

Eh?

Tbh, I don't even remember who brought it up. (And I really don't want to look back through the thread.)

I pointed out that a single father might want to learn form a discussion, and a man can sometime provide useful medical information and I cited an example.

Both are true.

Personally the only thing I cared about was the idea that a topic discussion a general group other than women wasn't open to that group. General topics being restricted. Also inserting such posts within restricted discussions.

They're all valid issues, I think. But it is what it is. We'll just have to call things out when we see them.

Anyone who is male and tries to dominate the discussion is trying to create an argument between the genders and should be moderated consistently for harmful words or sexually abusive language.

The women here are more likely to be calm negotiators and men fall prey to their own inadequacies.
We've all got them, but shouldn't be made to feel less off than the men, hence the Mens Thread.

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I don't think it is appropriate for men to dominate a topic in the women's forum unless he has something to offer that can't be offered by other members. But even then, there's a reason women post in that forum.


I'm sensing sarcasm. I would hope that it's the rare case that involves cruelty. I think most of the time people post to be helpful or to share a viewpoint that can't be shared by other posters.

Idk, sometimes things are just awkward to discuss with men. And I don't just mean periods.

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THEN i'm glad we agree on the same argument, which they've obviously turned into one, judging by their own obnoxious standards. I'm not sticking up for them on this forum. They should know whats right and wrong by not following a leader. Brainwashing is almost defiantly a devils sin.

Message to the O.P

I 'd like to say well done for thinking this thread up but in the long run, it won't work for the female members of Wrongplanet.
The only way its going to put these 'men' off from coming here is to start a new thread in another section whereby it will be harder for them to gain interest this way.
Its brave and amicable, but should have been thought out better. One question has been turned into a cacaphony. Of course, thats not to say another one won't heed the same results. So,whoever starts another thread should state it is a womens thread that means no men allowed. Other men have worked this out sooner.

Overall, any men who 'cross the boundaries of W.P' will most assuredly be marked for future reference.


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Just to re-iterate from p 14

Forum Guidelines – Women’s Discussion

1) The rules.

As with all Wrong Planet forums, all members posting in threads on this forum are bound by the Wrong Planet Terms of Service, as stated here: http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt12459.html

2) Involvement of male members.

While Wrong Planet rules do not prohibit posting by men in the Women’s Discussion, men who venture into this forum need to approach any reading or posting they do with an element of respect for the fact that they have just walked in on a conversation that should have little to do with them. This forum is intended to be more friendly to women, and to focus on issues unique to them.


3) Threads that say, "Women Only."

Members wishing to create threads for a restricted audience need to understand that it is not practical to prohibit members outside of the target group from reading or posting in the thread. Non-target members that enter the thread, however, are asked to treat the request - and the goals of the thread - with sensitivity and respect.

JUST TO NOTE -There were men who had created a male forum thread but stopped using it in 2011.
Perhaps through a lack of self focus or interest .

I'd say Men should not go where they're not welcome by the female majority.
Another thread would need to focus entirely on female issues only.
Don't pussyfoot around the men who choose not to give a damn, and channel restraint.

If I were male I would have to accept it.
Some of the members from the moderators list are no longer that, as they would display current identification logo badges. Whoever looks into 'modifying' needs a brain check, just to make sure they are making and not just stalling the correct decisions.
There are probably one or two females moderating on an active basis and this needs to be stepped up.

Are you sure the experience of some members, is not tainting the overall view of male members?

If a topic does involves men, i.e. not a topic just about women or a topic someone is trying to make about about men, then it a good idea to involve everyone. However, whatever if it is not wanted there may have to a separate discussion.

If I feel a different narrative is needed, I will post it elsewhere.

So if the topic is "male self control", that could be a discussion to see to what extent there perceptions are true, or personal experiences affecting general views.

Some thread have subtext, it is not always obvious from the OP what it is they are asking. However I don't to broach that minefield.

I thought about using "Male only", tag and there are some ideas that would qualify. I just really hate the idea of using such a restriction. It just goes against how I approach learning. Even it is something that is a very sensitive issue for men.

I'm not usual one to fuel patriarchy conspiracies, becuase I think the theory is out of date and simplistic in the western world, however perhaps some uncomfortable feelings stem from old taboos or Conservative thinking. Not always of course. Learning about gender, is beneficial.

I guess the good thing about women's only threads is that when people get upset with what others are saying, they can't blame males and generalize to male gender.

Somehow, I doubt that will stop them.