Is there a protocol for dealing with problem moderators?

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03 Apr 2012, 4:16 pm

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... But it seems to me that you don't gel with some members of this forum - certain types of harder edged male Aspie. Moderators have a chat about that issue?

One of the key qualities of being a moderator is keeping your personal opinions of members and their posts distinct from applying the site rules. Personally speaking there are a few members here who I strongly dislike for their opinions, however that has no bearing on how the rules are applied to them. Similarly I have issued warnings to some members who I like and who's posts I generally find interesting. Impartiality is the key.

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03 Apr 2012, 4:16 pm

"Abuse" is a serious word with a very specific meaning. Be careful tossing it around.

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03 Apr 2012, 4:19 pm

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... But it seems to me that you don't gel with some members of this forum - certain types of harder edged male Aspie. Moderators have a chat about that issue?

That's awesome! We're lucky to have you. I'm not allowed to post the official warning I got that suggests hyperlexian is unable to be similarly impartial.

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03 Apr 2012, 4:21 pm

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Dude, stop, this is not going to get you anywhere.

Feel free to suggest a better system. I've offered a few ideas.

I rather not get in a fruitless argument with a rulebreaker

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03 Apr 2012, 4:23 pm

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I'm not allowed to post the official warning I got that suggests hyperlexian is unable to be similarly impartial.

If you won't trust another moderator then you should speak to Alex about it.

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03 Apr 2012, 4:29 pm

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I'm not allowed to post the official warning I got that suggests hyperlexian is unable to be similarly impartial.

If you won't trust another moderator then you should speak to Alex about it.

Yep, that's the bottom line. If fraac believes his complaint to be valid he must go directly to Alex. Alex is the final authority on this site.

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03 Apr 2012, 4:29 pm

TallyMan wrote:

pastafarian wrote:

... But it seems to me that you don't gel with some members of this forum - certain types of harder edged male Aspie. Moderators have a chat about that issue?

All true and I think people do an amazing job. I think the level of discussion on this forum, compared to the rest of the internet is extraordinary and that has a lot to do with the fairness and skills of moderators.

I recognise that in all of them, including Hyperlexian. There are hundreds of smart, likeable people here and then some really unbearable ones and I am amazed how calm and professional you all are in the face of some obnoxious and vocal posters.

I just think that sometimes chalk and cheese grate unnecessarily, and actually inflame rule breaking. Its an Aspie thing (to this NT), that someone can sound as if they are saying one thing - its only when you get under the surface you realise they aren't. And we all learn stuff.

If that dont have a chance to happen, because moderators aren't superhuman and get the wrong end of a stick, its a shame. Its the best moderated forum I have ever encountered. I thank you for that as I like reading peoples views. The internet is usually a dreadful place to do that, this place isn't. But stay inclusive.

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03 Apr 2012, 4:44 pm

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I just think that sometimes chalk and cheese grate unnecessarily, and actually inflame rule breaking.

I didn't break the rules. I was officially warned for insulting other members in the last post here: http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts194077-start30.html - hyperlexian said that when you're in love you don't have superpowers, so I was trolling. At worst this seems like a difference of opinion, something that could be discussed in thread. If I get banned it'll be for the next thing I say that hyperlexian disagrees with, but you won't be allowed to know about it.

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03 Apr 2012, 4:49 pm

fraac wrote:

pastafarian wrote:

I just think that sometimes chalk and cheese grate unnecessarily, and actually inflame rule breaking.

When you are in a trial, you hear the jury's decision - but you don't get to argue about their deliberation.

Secrecy has it's place in protecting a fair system.

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03 Apr 2012, 4:50 pm

fraac, I just want to point out that your "file" has numerous offending posts in it, of which the one you mention above is relatively minor. If you think you have a case take it to Alex. I'm done here, life's too short.

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03 Apr 2012, 4:53 pm

... and there we have it. fraac, you just said that TallyMan is impartial, and... TallyMan agreed with me. so i guess you must feel that TallyMan made the right call, seeing as how he is impartial.

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03 Apr 2012, 5:00 pm

So I was officially warned for a minor offence (what offence?) but not shown anything else from my highly incriminating secret file? WOW GUYS, NICE SYSTEM.

I'm off to watch Das Leben der Anderen.

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03 Apr 2012, 5:07 pm

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So I was officially warned for a minor offence (what offence?) but not shown anything else from my highly incriminating secret file? WOW GUYS, NICE SYSTEM.

I'm off to watch Das Leben der Anderen.

I would assume the one that was sent with your warning...

Not sure whether you're deliberately *trying* to be ambiguous, or whether you really don't get it - but what TallyMan was saying was the post you brought up is *not* the only thing you've been warned about. Seems pretty self-explanatory to me.

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03 Apr 2012, 5:08 pm

i think it is natural to feel wronged when you receive a warning. it is very very difficult for some people to understand how the rules apply to them. i can put together a further clarification of your transgressions for you in a PM in a few hours, fraac. you've already been told in multiple ways but i don't mind doing a further explanation.

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03 Apr 2012, 5:15 pm

If you can do it publicly that would be great. I'm not interested otherwise.

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03 Apr 2012, 5:17 pm

sliqua-jcooter wrote:

fraac wrote:

So I was officially warned for a minor offence (what offence?) but not shown anything else from my highly incriminating secret file? WOW GUYS, NICE SYSTEM.

I'm off to watch Das Leben der Anderen.

I would assume the one that was sent with your warning...

Trolling for insulting other members for suggesting that a lesbian in love had superpowers, yes. Hence "What offence?" If I thought hyperlexian's reasoning was anything but a personal difference of opinions I wouldn't be writing here, would I?

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