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10 Mar 2007, 7:14 pm

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Looks like the book I was taught on.


Huh? Have you even read it?


Yes I read that blog and when I was still a mod it heavily affected the way I dealt with crimes of utter stupidty.


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10 Mar 2007, 7:14 pm

I always thought YOU were a mod, hale_bopp....


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10 Mar 2007, 7:14 pm

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I always thought YOU were a mod, hale_bopp....


Only of the womens forum. And that should be known to people, I cannot do anything about what happens everywhere else.



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10 Mar 2007, 7:17 pm

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I always thought YOU were a mod, hale_bopp....


Only of the womens forum. And that should be known to people, I cannot do anything about what happens everywhere else.


(See the avatar of Tom Baker? Imagine him going...)

"Aaaaaaaahhhh..... I see."


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10 Mar 2007, 7:17 pm

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I always thought YOU were a mod, hale_bopp....


Only of the womens forum. And that should be known to people, I cannot do anything about what happens everywhere else.


That's good to know.


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10 Mar 2007, 7:18 pm

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I always thought YOU were a mod, hale_bopp....


Only of the womens forum. And that should be known to people, I cannot do anything about what happens everywhere else.


That's good to know.


Yeah, for you. :roll:



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10 Mar 2007, 7:19 pm

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I always thought YOU were a mod, hale_bopp....


Only of the womens forum. And that should be known to people, I cannot do anything about what happens everywhere else.


That's good to know.


Yeah, for you. :roll:


Well, did atomik_psycho do anything to the Women's forum?


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10 Mar 2007, 7:21 pm

Adding more mods will give a false illusion of safety. And what happens when the mods start doing stuff other than just cleaning up after trolls? What happens when they start making threads you care about disappear in the name of political correctness or some other personal belief? WP has become a healthier place ever since Alex started putting less emphasis on mods. A community this size has to be primarily self moderated or it will turn into a police state. That's what WP used to be, and it has since become more enjoyable.

That being said, I do agree with having people in each time zone who can clean up after trolls if that is indeed their only responsibility. But I totally disagree with adding more mods for nannying.

There will never be a completely safe message board. There is always the danger of emotional hurt, of being misunderstood, of being offended. Adding more mods to a board will not create any real safety... there's always going to by psychological risk when one ventures to express oneself in a group of people. Period.



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10 Mar 2007, 7:25 pm

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Adding more mods will give a false illusion of safety. And what happens when the mods start doing stuff other than just cleaning up after trolls? What happens when they start making threads you care about disappear in the name of political correctness or some other personal belief? WP has become a healthier place ever since Alex started putting less emphasis on mods. A community this size has to be primarily self moderated or it will turn into a police state. That's what WP used to be, and it has since become more enjoyable.

That being said, I do agree with having people in each time zone who can clean up after trolls if that is indeed their only responsibility. But I totally disagree with adding more mods for nannying.

There will never be a completely safe message board. There is always the danger of emotional hurt, of being misunderstood, of being offended. Adding more mods to a board will not create any real safety... there's always going to by psychological risk when one ventures to express oneself in a group of people. Period.


True, it's not a mods job to make sure everyone is happy. Just kill the trolls and such. But even that requires a sizeable staff on forum this size.


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10 Mar 2007, 7:32 pm

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True, it's not a mods job to make sure everyone is happy. Just kill the trolls and such. But even that requires a sizeable staff on forum this size.


I would agree with that (as I said) if and only if that were their only responsibility.

But what exactly is a troll? Sure, atomika was a clear-cut case, but what about other members or future members who are not so clearly in the troll category, but are still considered annoying and obtrusive? How will it be decided exactly who is a troll?



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10 Mar 2007, 7:35 pm

Apatura wrote:
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True, it's not a mods job to make sure everyone is happy. Just kill the trolls and such. But even that requires a sizeable staff on forum this size.


I would agree with that (as I said) if and only if that were their only responsibility.

But what exactly is a troll? Sure, atomika was a clear-cut case, but what about other members or future members who are not so clearly in the troll category, but are still considered annoying and obtrusive? How will it be decided exactly who is a troll?


That's determined on a case-by-case basis.

Sometimes there will be errors and screw-ups but that's the price you pay for protecting the greater good.


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10 Mar 2007, 7:41 pm

What if some people had the authority to put "This thread is on hold pending moderation." Would that make any difference?



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10 Mar 2007, 7:43 pm

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What if some people had the authority to put "This thread is on hold pending moderation." Would that make any difference?


It'd be easier to just close the **** thing and be done with it.


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10 Mar 2007, 7:44 pm

I personally think random discussion should be deleted.

It encourages spammers. There was little trouble with SPAM before that place existed.



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10 Mar 2007, 7:46 pm

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I personally think random discussion should be deleted.

It encourages spammers. There was little trouble with SPAM before that place existed.


In my experience nothing attracts spammers to a site more then an RD section.

They seep into every corner of the site and bring down the quality.


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10 Mar 2007, 7:50 pm

Flagg wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
I personally think random discussion should be deleted.

It encourages spammers. There was little trouble with SPAM before that place existed.


In my experience nothing attracts spammers to a site more then an RD section.

They seep into every corner of the site and bring down the quality.


Will it solve the issue? I think not.


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