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06 May 2016, 3:59 am

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... men do not have many if any bodily processes or concerns that are not shared by women (excepting penile problems), and so do not need a sanctuary for their concerns...
... and for these concerns, we have our physicians. In my opinion, there is no need to waste time and effort in seeking consensus opinions for men's health issues on-line when factual information is available off-line from qualified medical people.

Of course, there are on-line resources like Web MD, NIMH, and the AMA.


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06 May 2016, 4:38 am

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06 May 2016, 4:39 am

Fnord wrote:
b9 wrote:
... men do not have many if any bodily processes or concerns that are not shared by women (excepting penile problems), and so do not need a sanctuary for their concerns...
... and for these concerns, we have our physicians. In my opinion, there is no need to waste time and effort in seeking consensus opinions for men's health issues on-line when factual information is available off-line from qualified medical people.

Of course, there are on-line resources like Web MD, NIMH, and the AMA.

i guess you are correct. i can think of penile problems i have seen spoken about on this website like accumulation of smegma under the foreskins of uncircumsized male original posters (and what to do about it), but beyond that, everything that is of concern to males is not in need of socially shared experience to deal with.

whatever.

the original poster is painting himself into a corner because he incites the type of antagonistic posts he protests about.

no one really cares much about anyone else, sly whatever number.
only your mother would really care that you are in such un-resolvable turmoil. other people just watch on with idle interest.
i do not know whether you have a good relationship with your mother, but it seems like you feel that your crying goes uncared for, which makes you cry even more frustratedly.

people do not donate their pity easily. if pity is what you want, then you have to be pitiful.
you are just raging against the machine which grinds on mercilessly in the same way regardless of whatever of your spanners you throw into it.

maybe you have too much desire to have what you can not get ironically because of it.

people are the way they are, and the momentum of 7 billion people's ordinary attitudes is something you have no breath to blow against.
you have to accept what you are. i am not musically talented as much as i would like to be, and i can half think of musical ideas that would make my life paradise to express, but i can only half think of them. i know i will die before being talented enough to formulate them for expression to others, and that is just all there is to it.

you may not be able to attract girls as much as other types you resent and do not admire, but that will be the case always, and so it is just something that you learn to live with or something that will kill you.



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06 May 2016, 5:08 am

Burn.


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06 May 2016, 5:15 am

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Burn.

thus spake a wretched rag adorned spectator at the pyre of joan of ark.
wretched did his comment melt into the ground in front of his tongue, and so only in the imagination could his comment be recreated and emoted upon.



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06 May 2016, 5:30 am

Whatever, I just found what you said amusing.


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06 May 2016, 5:43 am

To be equitable there should be a men's forum, I like the suggestion of it being health and wellness orientated.
In the same way that women with ASD experience marginalisation so too do the men, I won't invalidate that reality.

People with disabilities have traditionally been segregated and excluded be you man or woman, the difference for men is that they are expected to conform to the strong silent gender role, where as women are expected to be emotional.
From what I've seen on this website people with ASD do not always fit into these gender stereotypes.
Not having a mans discussion forum reinforces the marginalised message from wider society, it further invalidates the reality that is being a man with a disability 'there is no room for you in this world, suck it up'.
It's unacceptable discrimination that would not be tolerated towards women with ASD.



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06 May 2016, 5:52 am

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Whatever, I just found what you said amusing.

oh ok. i thought you were being inconsiderate of the OP without reference to my post.



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06 May 2016, 10:22 am

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I would hate it if a Men's Forum was filled with nothing except posts about boob size, masturbatory methods, penis size, variations on Internet Rule 34, complaints about being unable to get a date, whines about "Why do women hate me?", and rants about "All women are stuck-up". And if the shoe fits, wear it!

There is no need for a forum that allows for men to express hatred, sexism, and general misogyny; but I would welcome a Men's Forum that focuses solely on men's health issues instead.


b9 wrote:
the original poster is painting himself into a corner because he incites the type of antagonistic posts he protests about.


Ditto


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06 May 2016, 10:39 am

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Also getting sick and tired of certain males who are posting on my women not liking rich men thread! I don't want to argue with you


Oh don't worry, I don't argue. I actually agree that only women should post in the women's forum. I state my opinion but if its bothering someone I don't argue. I am not five years old.

I appreciate your opinion and reply thxs,



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06 May 2016, 1:13 pm

dcj123 wrote:
Alliekit wrote:
Also getting sick and tired of certain males who are posting on my women not liking rich men thread! I don't want to argue with you


Oh don't worry, I don't argue. I actually agree that only women should post in the women's forum. I state my opinion but if its bothering someone I don't argue. I am not five years old.

I appreciate your opinion and reply thxs,


I'm confused this wasn't about you. Pleas don't thing it is, my opinion on you is a good one. In fact I have good opinions on mostly everybody, even sly though he struggles sometimes :) :)



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06 May 2016, 1:54 pm

Listen, I tried. I asked Alex, set up a proposal.

His view is he didn't think there was enough topics. I did demonstrate that the women's forums wasn't all that fast pace either.

Btw it is not correct the men's forum was shut down becuase it became too x-rated or sexist as some have claimed. As Alex stated it was purely down to quantity of content in the very early days.

This topic has been settled as has the topic of whether men can post in the women's section. There is no women's only forum. It is not possible for WP to offer that kind of service. They can mark a thread as women only. It doesn't totally exclude men, however there are stricter rules on participation. The rules are on the sticky.

Identity is not something that can be policed by WP. This is just not a realistic expectation.



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06 May 2016, 1:55 pm

I think everyone should be able to post in every thread, as long as all posts are made in good faith. Saying somebody only has the right to post in a thread if they are a certain gender is just silly, in my opinion. People who troll, attack other users etc. should not be allowed to post in any thread, but there's nothing wrong with posting in a thread otherwise.



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06 May 2016, 3:24 pm

IMO, making a men's forum would be the only way we could have a female-exclusive women's forum. Of course, this means we should probably also have a transgender forum, and add "trans male/female" to the list of available genders.


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