Size discrimination needs to be banned from Wrongplanet

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Of course, there are some who are extreme and would deny their health being in danger or refuse to prevent health problems, I would think to be some sort of psychological defense mechanism, which they probably would feel they are being attacked by their appereance. I would assume it would be influenced by some experiences in the past, or something like that.


well, I agree in the sense on what kind of people would be considered more attractive, however we would need to define what exactly constitutes a healthy person and what would constitute an unhealthy person, accurately, and at which degree you would think someone is really unhealthy or not when it comes to weight. I assume that medicine and aesthetics would somehow differ on this, no?


Again we need to define unhealthy and we would need to accurately define fetish.


I see.

well yes I agree that the lifestyle has a lot to do with it, but we need to take in mind that not all bodies are the same, I could argue that in some cases, an obese person may have the same lifestyle as a thin person, nevertheless, they would need to take care of that, this seems to imply that their metabolism is more prone to obesity than other people.


Yes, I agree with responsability, but it lies only when it comes to health problems, not for looking unnatractive and "unwanted". Because after all, I believe there are some who would lose some weight and fat but not enough to conform to attractiveness I suppose, unless they go through surgery, but that would be for aesthetic reasons I suppose.


I agree.

I was making some really great spagetti sauce and wanted my co-worker to try it, but she said "no thank you, I am not hungry" and I replied" what does being hungry have to do with eating?!"

and that is the story of my life. I eat for comfort, I eat because I have starved before- several times. I don't mean just didn't have dinner. . I mean 50 bucks worth of food stamps for the month, or having no address and so I didn't even qualify for food stamps. I am talking about begging for spare change and walking miles to the churches that had a few canned goods to give away. . .and I don't think my body every forgot it, nor my unconscious mind.

in the 1950's when I was a child we would go to my grandmother's house we would go to see her and she had a bedroom in her house converted into a pantry and we would check her canned food to look for swollen cans and throwing out stuff we had seen on her shelves last year, etc . She had raised 5 children durning the Great Depression in the 1930's and she lived in Elkhart, Kansas in the middle of the Dust Bowl and I don't think she ever got over not having enough food to eat.

Merle

I know what you mean, SB. I learned early on to eat when food was available. We were a large family living on a construction worker's wages. There were rarely any leftovers, at least for not very long.

Nowadays, I eat until I'm ready to burst; but you almost have to when your diet is mostly salads, steamed veggies, and brown rice.

And if I NEVER see another tofu dish ever again, it will be far too soon!

My father was given dexadrine during World War II while working the night shift on the railroad. He was quite taken with it and soon found a brand of vapor inhailant for asthma that had dexadrine as the major ingredient and continued to use it that way until the fedral government health and safety laws outlawed it in the 1960's. He started gaining weight then and slowing down, and drinking.

Merle

I have a prescription for it.

Hey. Ya' know what? I'm fat. Food is a sick evil demon for me. I am either starving or gaining. It has been that way all my life. I've been all shapes, sizes and weights in my life, from anorexia to morbid obesity. I'm currently somewhere in between, but I'm still fat. I'm fat because I eat too much, too much of the wrong things, and do not get enough exercise. Sure, some people are fat due to glad problems or medication. I once even met a guy who was fat because he had a heat stroke. However these people only account for a few. Most fat people are fat because they eat too much, too much of the wrong things, and do not get enough exercise.

As for laziness. Yes, when it comes to exercising...I'm pretty freaking lazy. However, if the only thing a person can come up with to insult me is stating the obvious, I tend to think of them as unimaginative. At least they cannot say I am a bad mother, or a slacker at work, or a slob in the way I keep my home.

Gee...I'm fat...whatever...

yes, so did my father. From a Doctor. They used it to fight fatigue during the wars. He liked it. A lot.

Merle

Fnord being attracted someone who is fat is not a fetish. It's not a fetish for unhealthy people either, it simply is a preference for that type of human being. Healthy people do look more attractive in general, fat or thin. All you are doing is restating that you feel that people are deluding themselves if they are not working to become thin. That is a statement of someone who is size prejudiced. Please, keep your obvious fat hate to yourself and go elsewhere. I really don't appreciate you coming here and ruining my honest attempts to help people who are bullied by people just like you, find a save haven here.

Liking fat people doesn't mean someone has a fetish for unhealthy people. While we're on the subject though, what would you call having an attraction towards an Anorexic person, like let's say your typical runway model? That could also be considered having a fetish for unhealthy people.

Greenblue, I'm wondering if perhaps the best thing to do is just ignore Fnord's posts, and not respond to them. It's just so clear he's only here to try and make logical reasons for why one is entitled to hate someone based on their size. If he wasn't here to simply hurt others, he'd be open minded to the realities you've posted here. It would seem Fnord is just having fun being a troll. You and I are trying to make sure that people don't come to Wrongplanet and be mistreated for admitting they are fat. That they are fat, are involved with the size acceptance movement, and that they deserve respect just as they are.

I have yet to see a hateful statement from Fnord. He, myself, and others were simply pointing out the medical fact that fat people are fat because of lifestyle choices. That does not make it ok to hate fat people. But claiming that a person's weight is purely genetic in origin is a complete load of BS, and you and I both know that.

Some types of obesity are a defence, like a thicker wall against the outside world.

Gluttony.

I hate people that are mean to me.

I f****d around too much when I was slender. I could never keep the boys off of me. Promiscuity was embarrassing and frankly, it was boring, too. When I packed on the pounds, the boys left me alone and when I had meltdowns I could handle the emotions better with more padding. It is not like anyone really gives a hoot if I have 'good health' or not. Some guys like me for me, fat or not. Everyone is happy!

Merle

Sometimes they are, and sometimes they aren't. Also Gluttony is a term created by religion, which has had a long history of shaming people for not living up to God's supposed standards, it has been used against gays too. I don't see you throwing around Sodomy on this website as a retort against gay people.

Also Fiona Apple who was raped at age 12, became Anorexic as a defense against the outside world, but mostly men who might've abused her. It can go both ways.

Can we please discuss facts here, rather than assumptions or hate rehtoric? The facts are that people can be healthy at any size, and that it is nobody's buisness but their own how they choose to eat, or exercise unless someone asks for your opinon on the matter. I hope you can manage to understand that, and stop hurting people with your hate.

you're the only spouting hate rhetoric luvvy. it's in the eye of the beholder, you see hate everywhere, possibly you hate yourself so you project it onto others. don't know. don't care.

get fat. i don't care.

shrug

as long as you don't sit next to me on a plane or bus, it doesn't matter to me.

or a theatre.

PS Sodomy isn't a deadly sin.

PPS If your'e young it can be puppy fat. With the delayed maturity in AS that can last into your twenties. I had puppy fat until I was 29, after that I could eat like a pig and never put on weight, in fact I have to eat a lot of rich food, like ice cream, chips, donuts to keep my weight up. ha.