05 Aug 2020, 6:28 am
05 Aug 2020, 6:49 am
05 Aug 2020, 8:26 am
05 Aug 2020, 8:47 am
envirozentinel wrote:
:( 
[ / quote ]
If though you find yourself getting wound up and hostile, take a break ~ and breath gently and deeply as if your lungs are in your pelvis, and with each inhalation feel as if you are sucking your feet to the floor, and with each exhalation imagine as if you are rooting your feet into the ground. This breathing exercise can also be done whilst walking and running, and whilst as such doing imagine you are doing so on a treadmill, and you will find that your ability to walk or run will be metabolically improved. It is technique free-divers, runners and athletes of all sorts use and can also help to manage meltdowns, shut-ins and seizures. [ / quote ]
This is great advice. Thanks.
[ / quote ]If though you find yourself getting wound up and hostile, take a break ~ and breath gently and deeply as if your lungs are in your pelvis, and with each inhalation feel as if you are sucking your feet to the floor, and with each exhalation imagine as if you are rooting your feet into the ground. This breathing exercise can also be done whilst walking and running, and whilst as such doing imagine you are doing so on a treadmill, and you will find that your ability to walk or run will be metabolically improved. It is technique free-divers, runners and athletes of all sorts use and can also help to manage meltdowns, shut-ins and seizures. [ / quote ]
This is great advice. Thanks.
Bonus ~ glad to have of some assistance.
_________________
I reserve the right or is it left to at very least be wrong
05 Aug 2020, 8:56 am
05 Aug 2020, 11:07 am
Deepthought 7 wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Is it a personal attack to call people out on their racism or white supremacy, etc. without calling their actions that? What about when you tell them they are being an apologist?
You can state something along the lines of that comment appears to be or is somewhat racist, or white supremacist, etcetera ~ but you are not allowed to refer to the writer themself as being individually as such.
So basically you can criticise what is written but not the writer themself.
On other platforms, it's totally fine to call out racism and BTW calling their comments or actions racist can still get them to think you call them a racist so this advice is pointless.
Even a moderator can think the same too and bam, warning issued. They may even think you were just be sly by not calling them a racist directly but they could still see it was implied they were in your post even if you didn't call them that. People can read minds sometimes and they only care what you think, not what you wrote. People will usually deny they ever called you that because truly they didn't in their writing, they only thought that and saying and thinking are two different things. Like I say, if you use the R word, it triggers people so even if you call their actions racist, they will still feel you called them a racist. Then they will feel gas lighted when you tell them "I never called you racist" because then you are making them question their reading comprehension or making them think they were too sensitive so they read it that way. I see that G word tossed around a lot. There are articles online telling you what to do when you are called racist or think you are called a racist.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... story.html
https://www.salemnews.com/opinion/colum ... c62c9.html
https://thesaltcollective.org/not-respo ... ls-racist/
https://metro.co.uk/2020/03/26/white-pe ... -12376418/
https://www.wikihow.com/Respond-when-So ... 2Racist%22
05 Aug 2020, 11:09 am
05 Aug 2020, 11:19 am
05 Aug 2020, 2:07 pm
05 Aug 2020, 2:48 pm
sly279 wrote:
On other platforms it’s ok to tell people to go to hell, that’s not ok here. You can also block people on other platforms. People who want to break wp rules can just go to those other platforms then.
You know, it would be a hell lot easier if the rules specifically were "no advocating for marginalized groups and no calling people out on their racism" since those are apparently attacks.
You can't tell someone "that's racist." I mean what is next, telling someone "that is very rude" being an attack now?
05 Aug 2020, 3:00 pm
League_Girl wrote:
sly279 wrote:
On other platforms it’s ok to tell people to go to hell, that’s not ok here. You can also block people on other platforms. People who want to break wp rules can just go to those other platforms then.
You know, it would be a hell lot easier if the rules specifically were "no advocating for marginalized groups and no calling people out on their racism" since those are apparently attacks.
You can't tell someone "that's racist." I mean what is next, telling someone "that is very rude" being an attack now?What was racist?
Last time I talked to Sly, he was fearing lawlessness that may result from the unrest.
05 Aug 2020, 3:06 pm
05 Aug 2020, 3:21 pm
League_Girl wrote:
sly279 wrote:
On other platforms it’s ok to tell people to go to hell, that’s not ok here. You can also block people on other platforms. People who want to break wp rules can just go to those other platforms then.
You know, it would be a hell lot easier if the rules specifically were "no advocating for marginalized groups and no calling people out on their racism" since those are apparently attacks.
You can't tell someone "that's racist." I mean what is next, telling someone "that is very rude" being an attack now?this has already been explained to you here
if you have an issue with moderation take it up with them
dragonsanddemons
Veteran
Joined: 19 Mar 2011
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 6,659
Location: The Labyrinth of Leviathan
05 Aug 2020, 4:22 pm
League_Girl wrote:
sly279 wrote:
On other platforms it’s ok to tell people to go to hell, that’s not ok here. You can also block people on other platforms. People who want to break wp rules can just go to those other platforms then.
You know, it would be a hell lot easier if the rules specifically were "no advocating for marginalized groups and no calling people out on their racism" since those are apparently attacks.
You can't tell someone "that's racist." I mean what is next, telling someone "that is very rude" being an attack now?It seems to me, from how I’ve seen the rules explained, it’s okay to say “that (what the person said) is racist,” but not “you (the person who made the post) are racist.” It needs to be phrased so that any “attack” is on the statement/idea/belief/etc instead of the person who made/holds it, is how I understand it.
I will not share my opinions on that, I don’t want to get into that, this is just how I have interpreted moderators’ explanations of this rule.
05 Aug 2020, 4:47 pm
League_Girl wrote:
sly279 wrote:
On other platforms it’s ok to tell people to go to hell, that’s not ok here. You can also block people on other platforms. People who want to break wp rules can just go to those other platforms then.
You know, it would be a hell lot easier if the rules specifically were "no advocating for marginalized groups and no calling people out on their racism" since those are apparently attacks.
You can't tell someone "that's racist." I mean what is next, telling someone "that is very rude" being an attack now?Oops guess rudeness is out window , and whom is going to say , what is rude and what is not then and other
Various judgements on how things are stated . .......
05 Aug 2020, 6:20 pm
Jakki wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
sly279 wrote:
On other platforms it’s ok to tell people to go to hell, that’s not ok here. You can also block people on other platforms. People who want to break wp rules can just go to those other platforms then.
You know, it would be a hell lot easier if the rules specifically were "no advocating for marginalized groups and no calling people out on their racism" since those are apparently attacks.
You can't tell someone "that's racist." I mean what is next, telling someone "that is very rude" being an attack now?Oops guess rudeness is out window , and whom is going to say , what is rude and what is not then and other
Various judgements on how things are stated . .......
If a person can take personal issue with a general statement and get vindictive about it of course anything you say can be construed as rudeness if it suits them.
Rude is a word people who blatantly behave rudely can use to pre-emptively demonize someone to whom they behaved badly, as protection, as I found 2 years ago, so it can be no grounds for fair decisions.
I wish I'd screenshotted what the mods chose to delete to show the inanity of doing so.
