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08 Aug 2020, 8:44 pm

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I certainly wasn’t in “fashion” at my school.

The teachers sort of thought that I “deserved” to be bullied—because I had no social instinct whatsoever. And most teachers didn’t believe I had redeeming qualities. It was sort of a Social-Darwinist sort of mindset.

My attitude.....was to just take the bullying “like a man.” I never ratted out anybody. I went home to my books and TV and Hawaiian Punch—and gained lots of weight.


I can relate to a lot of that, only I smoked weed and drank Jolt or Jolt + codeine cough syrup instead of drinking Hawaiian Punch.

Mrs. P was the only school admin who ever actually cared about the situation. I never reported anyone, I only ever mentioned details when we got dragged down to the office. I had a few teachers who liked me or appreciated my presence in class but most were like you describe. One teacher who was an ex-cop was especially nasty but I got decent grades when I had keyboarding with her.


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08 Aug 2020, 8:46 pm

What happened after she grabbed your shirt?



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08 Aug 2020, 8:54 pm

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What happened after she grabbed your shirt?


I kept walking off to class and walked away. At this point in my life I'm grateful because I meant what I had said and was 100% prepared to follow through. I'm pretty sure my heartrate jumped about 30 bpm and that I twitched. That whole tunnel vision and time slowing down effect. I was terrified of having to explain over the phone to my parents yet another incident had occurred given that she was old enough to be retired by several years.

But if I got called down I didn't hear about it because I skipped after art class. :mrgreen:


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08 Aug 2020, 9:25 pm

^ I told my headteacher to f**k off. :P

I remember when he threatened me he would tell my mother about something I'd done and I said to him, "It's alright, I'll tell her."


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08 Aug 2020, 9:40 pm

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1. When a person states they wish to improve the situation and creates a thread for the purpose seemingly to explore and emphasize this idea one would assume giving an INDIRECTLY referred to example by way of an example of the issue that is impossible to explain otherwise-
At least as far as I can tell-
Wpuld be part and parcel towards the solution.

The usual methodology is to generalise all of the individuality out of any account of social interactions, especially considering the paranoia many of us have developed as a safety feature due to not having fitted in and being held socially accountable for which ~ meaning that individual references get instinctively / habitually associated with ourselves or others besides those who you are actually referring to ~ who might be us in other people's reckoning. Not to dissimilar really to as if Agatha Christie’s character Miss Marple stating to room full of people that there has been bullying most sly ~ and someone present is responsible! With some people feeling guilty or others trying to work out who is guilty or else the guilty individual trying to make someone else appear guilty, what with the nature of ‘who-done-it’ crime-thrillers being as they are.

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Also referenced as part of defending myself when I saw what was being written. Surely one has this right or it is pure hypocrisy

When the ‘Id’ (the protective beast or demon within) takes over defensively one has to learn to reign it in and not to post in anger, so to state that is pure hypocrisy is several shades to far as our best intentions can of course as the saying goes pave the road to hell, but as long as we learn from our mistakes as being retakes rather than punishing ourselves we tend less to make the same mistakes to the same extent again, until we make them no longer at all potentially.

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2. 'Enforced peace'??? Wtf. Towards someone who was actually asking mods to shut ppl up who hadn't even referred to them nor broken rules as iy was within keeping of the threads topic?

Exchange the unconscious I for the conscious I and benighted wisdom for enlightened wisdom ~ what with an eye for eye and tooth for a tooth making everyone myopic or blind and more prone to starving. Or in other words if one person is behaving badly don’t take the risk of it just being yourself (actually or just in the eyes of others), or else don’t make it two people behaving badly as it may as such even turn into a crowd or even a mob.

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So what response woukd you suggest?

The very one you suggested other than getting construed as rude such as exemplified with funeralxempire regarding your brother where you recommended restraint ~ and rather than being sly and playing the victim or such like; learn to be more accordant to your values and those of the Wrong Planet membership requirements also. I mean don’t pander ~ negotiate diplomatically in an open and fair way involving your morality in balance with everyone’s ethical reality, so that your mind set and bodily setting are in tune here without having to be dismissive about or submissive to anybody.

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Or with asd theory of mind issue whivh I surely have too-
one can forgive a presumption that we all share a hive mind and exact style of communicating to boot. So it is, evidently.

Consider looking beyond that narrative as theory of mind like any theory can be developed, as it is more often the communication impairments involving ‘all-or-nothing’ / ‘black-and-white’ thinking that is the greater problem ~ especially when people imagine one line or perspective of reasoning excludes or disproves another, when in fact they can confirm or prove the validity of the other.

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3. You obviously enjoy this and From the get-go I have not. So as before Im done. You Can continue to quote and try and find ways to pull out what you want and have at it. :jester: If thats what you think is an effective way towards achieving an improved state of things here

Just as it was imagined I was angry in quasi-moderating funeralxempire’s post, I do not enjoy having to repeat the same information when you are not enjoying it, that gives me no pleasure whatsoever. :(

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4. stating the same thing again and again is redundant in diff ways esp as you do not wish to believe it is sincere and honest on my end and we obviously do not share the same opinions on this to begin with.

I never for a moment imagined that your wish to be supportive and improve things here was not sincere and honest ~ never did I doubt that and never would I support anybody stating that they doubted that either, hence me stating that much to you.

Besides ~ without differences of opinion new combinations of interaction would never come about as their would be no reason to communicate if we all had the same opinion, I mean think about it ~ everything differs in some way or another for very particular reasons.

In nature individuality is not a crime but of absolute and infinite design.


The theory of mind comment was about you

My comment was about everybody with the Aspergenic thing.

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Still disagree as where I stated what I did was milder than the other person nor was it behaving badly and it was in a thread intended for the purpose and i defended this forum using examples and alternate routes. Not behaving badly by any standards except here apparently :mrgreen:
Fin

I knew very little about bullying until I was eleven as my Grandfather was someone nobody argued with and who won all fights, so when we moved away from my Grandparents area, things changed dramatically and harshly.

As a total pacifist I always wanted bullying to be stopped without involving violence. No matter though how much help I asked for I was always told to hurt the bullies more harshly than they were hurting me. So I put up with it for the first year and had a mental broke down. Then I put up with it the second, third, fourth and finally the fifth year and started having psychopathic breaks with sociopathic episodes ~ when all the bullying stopped because my body was hurting each of the bullies just as much as they had hurt me ~ all in one go. I had no control over IT for four years after as it just went for violent people until I learnt martial arts because IT knew marshal arts, and the first rule was never to strike in anger.

Hence my suggestion to learn as such yourself.

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We part as... Not friends but whatever that means neutral

Everyone to me is family but friendships take years so no problems there at all, things can only get better possibly. Neutral is the facilitator for negative and positive.

Interesting that you should write about neutrality because on being moderated neither you nor I were judged as doing anything wrong at all ~ it mattered not one jot either way so I was wasting both your effort and mine. You have along with everyone else my complete and utter unreserved apologies for using a higher standard of quasi-moderation than is deemed of any relevance here. Sorry.


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08 Aug 2020, 9:54 pm

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^ I told my headteacher to f**k off. :P

I remember when he threatened me he would tell my mother about something I'd done and I said to him, "It's alright, I'll tell her."


True, but that's not quite the same as warning them that if you're ever behind closed doors with them again that you're going to paint the walls red with their person. After that there were a couple incidents of me rubbing it in that I was untouchable, telling a friend that he didn't have to go with her and to just go to class she was going to overlook him smoking on property, mocking her while she was giving people s**t (I wore army boots and I'd clap the heels together loudly and do a Nazi salute behind her and then immediately assume a casual stance), threatening backhands or barking THAFUCKYAGONNADO?!, etc. I was big on publicly humiliating people who had bullied me at that age and didn't care if they were authority figures, authority comes from demonstrating dominance and I had done so, so I had the authority as far as I was concerned.


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08 Aug 2020, 10:25 pm

the school sounds a mess (funeralxempire) - what a hostile environment,
why would anyone want to continue attending being treated that way by kids and adults alike?
in the schools i've been to the 'outlaw' type 'bad' (trying to be) and/or mean but for no reason kids were the ones the teachers seemed to like and respect and accommodate the most.
and maybe my perception of bad is more extreme, but i mean the ones who never listened and broke all the rules (like cheating etc) were always let off and listened to.

the ones who actually listened (eg me) were like KraftieKortie said. ignored essentially even if struggling.

i can't believe they didn't even implement an IEP when you'd already had a diagnosis.

the schools nowadays seem stricter about these things which is good. but apparently (from parents on facebook groups) the IEPs can end up being used AGAINST the kid and parent.

pre-emptively hostile, evasive and defensive because not doing their job properly teachers, my son had one. and she was this type of person:
super gleeful to note one morning that son came to school with wet sleeves (only from wrist to an inch or so up)
as he had been playing with water washing his hands just before his school bus arrived. it was warm (not winter) btw.


the teacher (knowing XH and I were in the middle of a divorce)
instead of informing me about this NON ISSUE, directly called dad as though
to tell on me 'mom sent him to school with wet sleeves' i knew for a fact it was just the wrist portion and no way would the bus driver wait if i tried to change his shirt. plus it was a non issue to begin with.

she did this petty sh!t many times, this is just one example. she would also request me to pick him up just a couple of hours after school started daily because 'HE' couldnt handle it. i mean if u treat him the way the nurse and care coordinator said, why the heck would he want to stay?

i saw them shove him into a chair with NOTHING to do multiple times.. would have left him like that the whole time but since I was there i engaged him in stuff, saw them completely ignore him myself every time i went there

- etc (and his nurse and Care coordinator had both reported this to me as a CONSTANT) and they were just so awful. talking about gruesome things in front of the kids.
son was facing wall, not allowed recess (except first year since he had the best teacher ever) along with all the other special needs kids never having recess..
i would sneakily go to the area where kids his age were actually having recess, and beg the teacher to let me supervise him so he could enjoy it - he loved the atmosphere, the kids were friendly and curious and all was good.

then the past two school years the teacher stopped doing that (letting me) because she said, even though she disagreed and thought it was BS, she could lose her job because parents would be like 'why is this child with his mom here' and i told her BECAUSE HE IS SPECIAL NEEDS AND CANNOT BE ALONE as you know! she said yes but they might complain
after that basically the ADULTS enforced a gap between the 'normal' kids and 'special needs kids' with arbitrary stupid things like this, so he NEVER GOT TO EXPERIENCE RECESS AGAIN.
when i was growing up, in canada too, the times i was here, ALL THE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS HAD RECESS .. the teachres or volunteers or TA's would be with them, big deal! but not anymore at least here.


they wouldnt change him often enough except probably his nurse sent in for his lunch only, his diaper would be dripping when he came home, etc. N it never leaked at home and no accidents-- at school almost daily they would say he had 'an accident' which really meant they had failed to change him etc

so all of above to say is that some teachers may be okay with bullying because maybe they themselves are scum and elitist bullies in their secret hearts. his current teacher is nice but ta's are a hit or miss.. for example for 'pe' time i was volunteering to be with son and they literally did NOTHING but throw the ball RANDOMLY around the gym (NOT TO THE KIDS)--as though to occupy themselves, casually-- and gossip. i tried to engage him separately so at least he had that. but the other kids were just strapped down idle while TA's talked about things in their lives.

social darwinism, as KraftieKortie says.


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08 Aug 2020, 10:58 pm

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the school sounds a mess (funeralxempire) - what a hostile environment,
why would anyone want to continue attending being treated that way by kids and adults alike?
in the schools i've been to the 'outlaw' type 'bad' (trying to be) and/or mean but for no reason kids were the ones the teachers seemed to like and respect and accommodate the most.
and maybe my perception of bad is more extreme, but i mean the ones who never listened and broke all the rules (like cheating etc) were always let off and listened to.

the ones who actually listened (eg me) were like KraftieKortie said. ignored essentially even if struggling.

i can't believe they didn't even implement an IEP when you'd already had a diagnosis.

the schools nowadays seem stricter about these things which is good. but apparently (from parents on facebook groups) the IEPs can end up being used AGAINST the kid and parent.

pre-emptively hostile, evasive and defensive because not doing their job properly teachers, my son had one. and she was this type of person:
super gleeful to note one morning that son came to school with wet sleeves (only from wrist to an inch or so up)
as he had been playing with water washing his hands just before his school bus arrived. it was warm (not winter) btw.


the teacher (knowing XH and I were in the middle of a divorce)
instead of informing me about this NON ISSUE, directly called dad as though
to tell on me 'mom sent him to school with wet sleeves' i knew for a fact it was just the wrist portion and no way would the bus driver wait if i tried to change his shirt. plus it was a non issue to begin with.

she did this petty sh!t many times, this is just one example. she would also request me to pick him up just a couple of hours after school started daily because 'HE' couldnt handle it. i mean if u treat him the way the nurse and care coordinator said, why the heck would he want to stay?

i saw them shove him into a chair with NOTHING to do multiple times.. would have left him like that the whole time but since I was there i engaged him in stuff, saw them completely ignore him myself every time i went there

- etc (and his nurse and Care coordinator had both reported this to me as a CONSTANT) and they were just so awful. talking about gruesome things in front of the kids.
son was facing wall, not allowed recess (except first year since he had the best teacher ever) along with all the other special needs kids never having recess..
i would sneakily go to the area where kids his age were actually having recess, and beg the teacher to let me supervise him so he could enjoy it - he loved the atmosphere, the kids were friendly and curious and all was good.

then the past two school years the teacher stopped doing that (letting me) because she said, even though she disagreed and thought it was BS, she could lose her job because parents would be like 'why is this child with his mom here' and i told her BECAUSE HE IS SPECIAL NEEDS AND CANNOT BE ALONE as you know! she said yes but they might complain
after that basically the ADULTS enforced a gap between the 'normal' kids and 'special needs kids' with arbitrary stupid things like this, so he NEVER GOT TO EXPERIENCE RECESS AGAIN.
when i was growing up, in canada too, the times i was here, ALL THE SPECIAL NEEDS KIDS HAD RECESS .. the teachres or volunteers or TA's would be with them, big deal! but not anymore at least here.


they wouldnt change him often enough except probably his nurse sent in for his lunch only, his diaper would be dripping when he came home, etc. N it never leaked at home and no accidents-- at school almost daily they would say he had 'an accident' which really meant they had failed to change him etc

so all of above to say is that some teachers may be okay with bullying because maybe they themselves are scum and elitist bullies in their secret hearts. his current teacher is nice but ta's are a hit or miss.. for example for 'pe' time i was volunteering to be with son and they literally did NOTHING but throw the ball RANDOMLY around the gym (NOT TO THE KIDS)--as though to occupy themselves, casually-- and gossip. i tried to engage him separately so at least he had that. but the other kids were just strapped down idle while TA's talked about things in their lives.

social darwinism, as KraftieKortie says.


That sounds horrible. I'm glad I was never put into that sort of schooling, I guess that's the benefit of my parents downplaying any issues they had with me. My dad had been labelled at times in school so I think he was justifiably paranoid that it would hurt me (they skipped him a grade and then labelled him but never pulled him back, I'm assuming he likely would be considered 'doubly exceptional' these days). Basically he understood what you're saying about how they can be used against.

I wonder if some teachers were dweebs and outcasts who grow up worrying too much what kids think about them. In that case I feel a degree of empathy but also pity.


I was terribly secretive which made it harder for my parents to intervene on my behalf and by high school I had figured out that I could largely control the communication. When I was 16 I claimed I had been emancipated and had my number on file changed to some random local Bell test number (no more attendance calls), I controlled any paper work home and back, etc. When I was 17 the school forced me to see a doctor, but she basically came back 100% on my side. She noted paranoia and some other stuff, confirmed ADHD but missed ASD and diagnosed bipolar. My IQ got tested and a big split was noted. Between Dr. Judy and Mrs P it almost seemed like some people seemed to care. My parents sort of cared but my mom basically didn't want to consider if I had any issues despite me flat out telling her, and a doctor telling her...

Now that you mention it, I remember the special needs kids joining us for recess when I was young, but not towards the end of elementary school. The kids who were mostly in 'normal' class but had help usually went outside for recess. I was usually nice with those kids but stayed away from the kids who were worse off. I feel bad for that now even if it was because I was worried I'd be judged. The really nice popular kids could get away with it, but no one picked on them no matter what they did, so it seemed easy to be nice to anyone, when I tried to be like that it usually backfired.


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08 Aug 2020, 11:32 pm

My school principal had a rule for respect but somehow that didn't apply to kids like me because she thought I had to toughen up. :roll:

Then when I was fighting back, they decided to say I have a behavior and wanted to put me in a class with kids with aggression issues.

My school would also ignore my IEP and my parents always had to fight it. I have read comments online by posters who say they are teachers and they claim how parents will just get their kids diagnosed with anything for an IEP just because they are lazy and there was one teacher who was the exception. He had this student in his English class who was on the IEP for dyslexia, he ignored the IEP and made him do the actual school work like read and stuff and the kid finally did it when the teacher made him and was firm and consistent. Over the years, the kid was just lazy and never was made to do any actual school work and he was given a label because he wasn't doing any school work. I am sure my school thought I was one of those kids because I looked normal and I wasn't acting too different because I didn't look like a special needs child. I looked normal and didn't seem to be any different than other kids. They might have thought I just needed tougher treatment and I would be normal. I guess that explains their treatment on me as a child and all I did was felt singled out, discriminated, and I saw the double standards. You cannot enforce anything on me but not enforce it on everyone else or else I see discrimination. So my school had a problem with me because I did not accept injustice and double standards.

Years later I find out things are always enforced on special ed kids so they tend to be more polite than normal kids. This might also explain it for me as well and I did not accept it and because I didn't accept it, I had a "behavior problem." Their system did not work with me and even my therapist told them this was not a League Girl problem, this was a school system problem.

Lot of schools will try and get away with it if the parents do not know their rights and don't know how to advocate for their child. Schools will even try and deny an IEP for a child saying they don't need one. They tried to do that for me when I was 8 when my mom forced them to test me to prove to her I belonged in a self contained class. It was shown I didn't belong in there and I could read and I knew how to add and subtract and I knew my alphabet and because of all these things, I didn't need an IEP they said. But my parents fought it and I was still able to keep it.

I have heard the opposite now that any kid can get on the IEP and many of them fall under "other health impairment" because more kids are getting diagnosed and some medical professionals believe these kids are actually normal and parents are just lazy. IMO, I say humans are evolving so there are more and more kids with different learning styles and the education system needs to change and there will be less special needs kids.

Kids are being given less recess now so they are more restless now and have troubles focusing so the ADHD diagnoses has increased. Kids are expected to sit for long periods of time and listen for long periods of time and they are not being given enough down time. When I see articles about this, it makes me think "no wonder the ADHD diagnoses has increased."

And schools can give out IEPs and put them under categories so they can say a kid has ADHD or something but it wouldn't be a true diagnoses. A kid does not need a medical diagnoses to have an IEP. The school will do it and Oregon gives schools more funding if they have an IEP student, especially with ASD. I speak from experience as a parent.

I am sure things would have been different for me as a kid if schools were given more fundings for every student they have on the IEP.

I think schools will try and cut corners to save money if they are not given any extra fundings for an IEP student so it is up for the parents to figure out what their rights are and how to advocate for their child.


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09 Aug 2020, 12:06 am

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I agree with Raleigh. It's mostly here so we can communicate ideas, chat with online friends, and share experiences good, bad or neutral.

Everyone has different expectations and experiences here. There are even instances of folk who met their "other half" on here. Not everyone can expect such dramatic things, but it is a place where where people should feel at home and comfortable with, regardless of their functionality level , interests or posting style.


Here are my questions. They're mainly rhetorical just for all of us think about. People can answer if they wish to. What has WP, ASAN, all of the organizations made by autistics, organizations made by professionals, the company who formed to specifically hire autistic people, schools, educators, professionals like psychologists, therapists, etc, etc and others including Voc REhab done to help the community as a whole? Ronald Reagan asked during one of the debates "Are you better off today then 4 years ago?" Are you better off today then 8 years ago? What has been the results for all of your lives? I think you all get the point.

What exactly is the hiring and retention rate for autistics today compared to 4 years ago and older?

What exactly is the ability to make friends and get into romantic relationships today compared to 4 years ago and older?

Has all of these organizations, individuals, professionals, etc helped to improved your quality of life or helped to give you the tools so you can do so? How effective has it all been? How has aspergian island (Atlantis for aspies?) which is defunct now improved our lives? Aspies for Freedom? What about Neurodiversity?

How many of you have jobs today and are able to provide themselves a living vs those who can't and end up being someone's charge and/or put on SSDI/SSI? What about years ago? Are more autistic people independent today then years ago?

You all want to improve WP then the same questions should be applied across the board to all of these organizations, professionals, and individuals as well in the supposed "autism community" which is really not a community at all but more towards the American style of individualism.

You all want to improve WP. Quit focusing on all of these stupid rules and focus more on finding ways to improve the community as a whole. Ya we need them to an extent. But, quit trying to ban everything offensive under the sun. Quit being Politically Correct. Get out of the f*****g weeds. Ya, it is difficult but I think we all need to try to attempt to see the bigger picture as to where we all are as a community as where we want to be 10 years from now?



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09 Aug 2020, 3:59 am

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There are plenty of passive men in the world, and plenty of aggressive women.


It doesn't change the fact that League_Girl has a sting in her tail, at times.

She asked,
I spoke the Truth as I saw it. ;)

You seriously haven't seen it yourself?
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Deepthought 7 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
Vast quote trees will NOT make WP appealing to most who sign up here.

Depth of thought involves making written matter understandable to most who read it.


I simply don't read them.

I am semi-dyslexic.
Too much work. :wink:

You raise such good points for discussion
I am just a skyscraper poster though
Editing them down takes so much work
Yet that still leaves them as high rise posts :hmph:


Oh, lolly gosh, you sweet talker, you. :heart:

Like I said, my semi-dyslexia makes it exhausting to read large posts.
So I generally skip 'em.
But the quality of what you have to say is excellent. :)

League_Girl wrote:
Pepe wrote:
League_Girl wrote:


I do probably have a male way of communicating since my gender has been questioned online at other places.

I never saw male and female language, text is just text so I would have no way of understanding how does a woman talk and how does a man talk.


You can be quite aggressive.
That tends to be a more male trait. ;)


I assume you mean verbally.

Hopefully you don't mean personal attacks. I am not aware when I do them unless I call someone a butthead. :wink:


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funeralxempire wrote:
Oh_no_its_Ferris wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:

I've been on both sides of bullying, although I didn't realize how often I had been a perpetrator until after I was done school. It's often complicated because in a lot of cases the kids who are bullies are also bullied in another context and it often amounts to the popular kids letting the outcasts pick who's going to be the 'sanctioned scapegoat' from among themselves, and often with a degree of official sanction because teachers and administrators tend to be sensitive to how 'the crowd' feels about certain kids, so they'll often turn a blind eye to certain types of kids being bullied.


Your school sounds like it sucks balls


It did. I'm not sure if elementary school or high school was worse, both were uniquely horrible. My high school had no problem letting me withdraw from classes but overlooked that I was 'identified' since elementary school, meaning they should have given me an IEP and access to the resource class from day one, but instead I only got the bare minimum of help in my 6th year of high school.

I only started to figure out how to self-advocate on important stuff after I finally snapped on the new little old gremlin VP who replaced Mrs P (who was the mom of a classmate from elementary school and very kind to me). Basically I told Mrs. Hayward if the school wasn't going to take my complaints of harassment and physical assaults seriously I was going to address them hands on and if she called me to her office over it I'd treat her as one of the bullies because she was already one of them for picking on me for dressing weird and singling me out for issues I didn't have (like smoking on property when I'd never smoked tobacco in my life). I pointed out the only disciplinary issues I had ever had were poor attendance and fighting, both due to bullying the school allowed to continue; I told her I was leaving and that she didn't want to ever see me in her office again. She grabbed me by the shirt a day or two later and I didn't even slow down or acknowledge it. A 90lb person can't stop a 200lb person. She retired at the end of that year. :mrgreen:


In your position I'm pretty sure I would of got arrested as I would of done some really stupid stuff in retaliation


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09 Aug 2020, 8:12 am

Funeralxempire I think that was smart of you because already being in a tough situation. Also it wd draw negativity towardw those children too.
Bullying of me at school began when I was with my friend Kiran..

whose mom became friends with my mom somehow meeting her at the school-


and after that she requested my mom to tell me to please take care of her daughter as she was being bullied there since they moved all the way from Montreal to Mississauga...before I even attended that school...
Just stick to her and keep her company at recess n translate things at school.


N they used to pelt her with pinecones n yell at her

(only the boys AND girls in their stupid 'Pixie Club' created by their moms) on her way home from school

so from then on my mom wd drop her home...
But i only became a target from being her friend at that school


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09 Aug 2020, 8:18 am

What is it with all these long posts?

And mostly off topic?

Is there any real need?

Can some people go off and chat about off-topic related stuff or create a new thread?

It would certainly help this thread to be more on track and find solutions to making wp better.

:? :(



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09 Aug 2020, 8:24 am

Off Topic
Sorry Tem


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