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30 Oct 2015, 10:20 pm

The OP was OOM, and she specified her determined intention that opinions not be censored in any way, so I don't see a compelling reason to lock it so far.

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01 Nov 2015, 9:00 am

Barchan wrote:
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OOM had a very notable contempt for anyone who displayed any sort of personal weakness she deemed "beneath her", and would bully people who displayed such "weakness". That's pretty inappropriate behaviour for a support website, and also the raison d'être of many bullies. It's gross and shouldn't be tolerated.


Seconding this. She's habitually rude and hostile, and every time someone tells her to dial it down a notch she calls them a "whiner" or "crybaby" in typical playground bully fashion. I'm sorry to see her go, but anyone who thinks she's a martyr here is just kidding themselves.

Yeah, I tried to point this out to OOM in her Halloween thread. I don't think she really means to be a bully. Her posts suggest a lack of self-awareness, reactivity, and poor theory of mind--all common problems for people with autism...

On the more general topic of negative/adversarial posting...

I agree that it's a problem in the general forums. However, I think posters should have more freedom in the PPR forum.
By nature, politics, philosophy, and religion are controversial. People should feel free to exchange their veiws in an honest and frank manner there. Otherwise, what's the point?

I can be pretty argumentative, but I try to restrict it to PPR topics.

Not sure if I got one of those warning messages or not. I usually delete WP emails without reading them. :oops:
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02 Nov 2015, 10:57 am

My take on this is that people didn't dislike OOM, they just didn't like her straightforward manner of speech, which is perfectly fine; I'm not good with blunt talk either, even though I personally don't think it is bad. OOM isn't at fault either. She never went out of her way to deliberately offend other people, she just had very strong views and a blunt way of expressing them; unfortunately because of this she was always in the middle of misunderstandings and dramatic debates. I hope she didn't leave because she felt she couldn't post here anymore.



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02 Nov 2015, 11:06 am

Catlover5 wrote:
My take on this is that people didn't dislike OOM, they just didn't like her straightforward manner of speech, which is perfectly fine; I'm not good with blunt talk either, even though I personally don't think it is bad. OOM isn't at fault either. She never went out of her way to deliberately offend other people, she just had very strong views and a blunt way of expressing them; unfortunately because of this she was always in the middle of misunderstandings and dramatic debates. I hope she didn't leave because she felt she couldn't post here anymore.

I'm fairly opinionated myself, and I am pretty blunt, but I think she is being a little too sensitive about being asked to tone it down. Feed back can be a good thing, and it doesn't hurt to listen to it.


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02 Nov 2015, 11:12 am

glebel wrote:
I'm fairly opinionated myself, and I am pretty blunt, but I think she is being a little too sensitive about being asked to tone it down. Feed back can be a good thing, and it doesn't hurt to listen to it.


Who was it who told her that she would be banned if she didn't "tone it down"? Was it a mod or another non-mod member?

Anyway, I wanted to add that in quite a few threads I saw, such as the Halloween costume thread, she did seem rather unhappy and on edge while posting on here. Maybe her departure was for the best.



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02 Nov 2015, 11:18 am

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Who was it who told her that she would be banned if she didn't "tone it down"? Was it a mod or another non-mod member?

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02 Nov 2015, 3:36 pm

i am feeling quite thankful to have missed this.


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02 Nov 2015, 8:06 pm

she's started her own forum now LOL.



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02 Nov 2015, 11:36 pm

To clear up about me lying about her lying I think it was a miscommunication on my fault likely. She had started to talk to me about stuff and had shown my picture to her daughter and friend, then when the family stuff happen she stopped replying. I have a different more black and white way of replying to questions, so I think when asked if she'd helped me I said no because she hadn't but she had tried, but I tend to answer stuff literally as how it was asked. No ones helped fix my car because it's broke , but people have tried to fix it.

So for my part in miscommunicating I'm sorry.



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03 Nov 2015, 12:04 am

I really hope she comes back. I miss reading her stories about the south.


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03 Nov 2015, 9:14 am

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she's started her own forum now LOL.

Really?



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03 Nov 2015, 9:35 am

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Aprilviolets wrote:
she's started her own forum now LOL.

Really?

Yep. Click here.



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03 Nov 2015, 4:55 pm

Catlover5 wrote:
Aprilviolets wrote:
she's started her own forum now LOL.

Really?


Yep.

She left for the umpteenth time. So I figured she would return for the umpteenth time. But she went, and started her own site. Whatever.



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03 Nov 2015, 10:51 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
Catlover5 wrote:
Aprilviolets wrote:
she's started her own forum now LOL.

Really?


Yep.

She left for the umpteenth time. So I figured she would return for the umpteenth time. But she went, and started her own site. Whatever.


She's even called it Right Planet, and there are people bagging this forum.
It might not last.



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03 Nov 2015, 11:19 pm

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XFilesGeek wrote:
In order to clarify, Alex had expressed his concerns to the Mod team that WP was becoming too negative. The messages that were sent out were asking for cooperation from certain members with a history of contentious posts in an attempt to emphasis that WP is, first and foremost, a SUPPORT site.

Given that WP is a discussion forum, it would have seemed more appropriate for Alex (or a Moderator) to post a thread asking the community:
a) If this is true (i.e. is WP becoming too negative)?
b) What would the community like to do about it?

My suggestion for b) is very simple. Allow members to "avoid" certain individuals. When a user "avoids" an individual, a) that individual's posts are automatically hidden (from the user); b) that individual's posts do not trigger an automatic email alert (to that user). Though, I have the feeling that this type of feature is expensive to build.

I used that feature you're speaking of back on AC and I don't really recommend it. It cut out the posts from certain people that I was trying to stay away from, but when you read threads you would miss big gaps depending on how many people you were avoiding. One time I was in the chat room reading the conversation and I saw only one person in there and I thought "what in the heck is he doing? Why is he talking to himself and answering back?" Then I realized it was because I had "hidden" the other member that was in the chat room! :mrgreen: I felt like such a doofus!


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03 Nov 2015, 11:54 pm

I'd like to say (speaking from experience) that banning shouldn't be taken lightly. I don't think anyone should ever be permanently banned - maybe after a couple warnings they could be given a month banning. Like it's been said, these forums are some people's only way to communicate with others and they form bonds with people here and on other forums. I know exactly how it feels to be banned without even a warning and it can really do some damage to a person. I was depressed and cried for months after I was banned. I had spent countless hours with those people and it was gone in one second after a moderator made a quick decision and pushed a button. A banning should also never be able to be done by just one moderator - all should be in the decision (including the developer of the forum). I came here after I was banned, but it was a poor substitute because I had to meet all new people again and make a name for myself. I'm all for people being able to say what is on their mind, however, being on both sites (this one and AC) the atmospheres are totally different. I don't know if members here want to be able to say what they want and just not have a positive, friendly atmosphere staying aloof of each other, or do they want to have more of a closeness with each other and more of a "friendly/neighborly" atmosphere. WP is the former and AC is the latter IMO. There are also more controversial topics covered over here which I do like. Just lately, I happened to lose my temper in one of those threads and was told to tone it down. I can understand that to a point, but when such topics are discussed it should not be a surprise for people to have disagreements and argue. I think an argument should be left alone to continue as long as no one in the argument is being called names, etc. People are going to disagree in regards to such topics and argue and it concerns me after reading this thread that I may at some point be banned for something that I said in the heat of the moment and so then I am not comfortable anymore to voice my opinions and end up "walking on eggshells" as another member put it. Honestly, I actually try not to address or reply to any moderators here (unless it's positive) because I do fear that I may say the wrong thing and get a warning or be banned like what happened before. I'm going to stop here because I feel like I'm having diarrhea of the mouth by continuing to talk. Just some thoughts. :)


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