CAPTCHA problem

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Thanks for posting, Alex. Unfortunately, it never, ever works for me the second time, whether or not I solve the Captcha. That said, I'm blind, so thanks for the little alt text descriptions of emoticons/images here.

I've never known it to work the second time either, Alex. I'm pretty sure if there was an easy workaround we'd have found it by now. Quotes, brackets, and possibly the repetition of words are the things that seem to trigger it. In my case quotes really seem to set it off, particularly when followed by anything but the shortest post.

Thanks for responding, but I think we need a more effective solution.

That did not work for me after trying it 10 times last night. At some point, I had to give up.

All I was trying to do was discuss a topic in depth. I even removed all the brackets, causing my post to have less contrast and making it difficult to distinguish the quotes and what I was saying, but apparently my post was too long. I split it up, but apparently I was making too many posts in quick succession so I couldn't add the last part. It was in the "Were there Huns in Anglo-Saxon England" thread in Random Discussion.

Are you trying to tell me we should give up trying to discuss topics in depth? That we should instead post nothing more than 30-second soundbites that simplify things?

To be honest, the one and only solution that will work is the one that SHOULD have been done a LONG time ago: sending Cloudflare into the dumpster where it belongs.

I've never... EVER... seen a Cloudflare-related site that actually freaking WORKS. I have, however, seen tons of them that crash, fail, screw up, and invite spammers and nasty PM bots from the four corners of the Internet. Like some sort of damn beacon. While at the same time punching actual users in the face, because CLEARLY those are the real bots.

And lo! Is that the song of the spammer I hear, even now? Why yes... the front page (more than one) of the main forum section is drowning in bot spam again as I type this! You know, spam, which is the captcha's ENTIRE FREAKING REASON FOR EXISTING, in that it's supposed to stop that? And yet the useless monkeys that created it cant even manage that.

Why anyone trusts Derpflare, I'll never know. It cant even perform one of it's core functions. Cant do it WHATSOEVER. It's like going into battle with "armor" that turns out to actually just be a live chicken that you put on your head. Not exactly going to be effective, though it'd be more effective than Derpflare. But then, basically anything would.

Like I always say: The one and only reason I'm still at this horrid site is that I have friends here, and if I leave, I wont be able to stay in contact with them much anymore. A sad and irritating state of affairs.

Ok, so I'm in the process of trying to get this fixed. Unfortunately I can't recreate the problem.

Cloudflare wants me to get users with this problem to submit a HAR file.

here's what you guys need to do: https://support.cloudflare.com/hc/en-us ... -HAR-file-

Thanks Alex. I have three questions:
1. Is the idea to record the whole process from hitting the "submit post" button up to the point where Capcha has decidedly messed things up?
2. Do we send the .HAR file to you, or do you want us to send them to Cloudfront? The final step says "Now you can upload the output file to your support ticket or attach it to an email response" but I don't see how we could do this directly.
3. Firefox can do a similar recording thing, but generates a .JSON file rather than a .HAR file. Will this do? It would seem sensible to generate the trace file from our preferred browser(s), and I'm wary of using Chrome.

If you're interested in seeing the fault yourself, I recommend submitting a long post containing a number of quotes via the "quote text" button. Works most times for me.

Last edited by ToughDiamond on 26 Jul 2016, 8:20 pm, edited 1 time in total.

No it does not. For me it stays consistent until i find the trigger in my post that set it off and remove it/rewrite that section of my post. If i do the captcha it sends me back to an empty posting formular, if i click back and resubmit it sets off again...

I expierence this almost daily, and it involves either too much symbols like (brackets) or "this"... or it reacts (inconsistently) to keywords. Yesterday i was posting something about my skin wich contained the block



And this one has gone even further by not offering me the defective captcha, instead it said "You have been blocked from wrongplanet.net". I had to remove the word corpse to get it from "blocked" to "captcha" and needes to remove the "" around zombie for it to finally pass...

And if the Captcha would WORK at least it wouldnt be that big of a problem. But how it is at the moment you literally have to "design" your post around a broken protection system that doesnt even protect really, measuring the amount of spambot topics we have almost daily here. And tbh cloudflare just sucks big time, i have seen others sites who were "protected" by it and they usually had similiar problems with it (Like captcha constantly triggering just by browsing the site etc..)

I would send you the .HAR files, but im a firefox user and i wont use chrome...

Peace
TK

PS: And it is really inconsistent. The amount of symbols used in THIS post works, other posts of mine have been captchablocked for not even half the amount of symbols. I dont get this thing, its so random annoying...

Yes please send it to me. I guess the idea is to record the whole process. I think you need to submit a HAR file, not a JSON. Firefox should be able to generate a HAR file in the developer tools.

Thanks. I searched around for an explanation of how to save a .HAR file from Firefox, and found nothing very clear, but I think the instructions on this page seem to work, with a slight alteration to step 4:

https://confluence.atlassian.com/kb/gen ... 20612.html

My modified version of the procedure:
1. Go to Tools > Web Developer > Network
2. Refresh the page (F5) to start capturing the traffic between the browser to the server.
Note: Please capture a full page load so we can see the requests made prior to the problem we're analyzing.
3. Complete the steps that trigger or demonstrate your issue.
4. Rightclick anywhere in the lower left-hand pane and choose "Save All As HAR" to save the HAR file

The article implies you need to install an extension, but you don't.

also keep in mind that you need to start logging before you submit the post in the first place.

Ouch, Captcha

None of this really helps anybody in the long run. I speak English, so I hope whoever can filter out this nonsense allows full capacity of a free site to flourish. The captcha is supposed to be sufficient for ignoring trolls but I have found that I cannot respond to my own posts at times, or have been locked down due to long standing veterans expressing some indifference or useless issue and, probably actioned some online petition here.

I can't speak for the regulations and rules that bind this structure together, but the current ethos needs to change.
The only way to stop a 'dry rot' from settling in, is to ignore it by being as selfless and unmitigated in stance as possible. However, I can't speak for the younger veterans here. That requires a bigger taskforce.

..As for re-submitting anything, how about BigDaddy, or whoever the other task side are, get onto redoubling their efforts for another planning application of another site domain? Hasn't this site only got another 2 years life span before its due for renewal?

As for side-logging other forums, I believe in the original sanctity of the posts here and not another catalogue of underground interchange on another 'reality forum show'.

The recall operation would be token based and would assign another set of rules, which also comes from an original site owner made in the long run.

Can I assume that no one has experienced this problem since I last posted?

Ouch, Captcha! * 6

I don't understand what you're trying to say.

No, i had one again. But for the sake of recording more data i did the captcha and murphys law striked. It didnt send me back onto a blank posting formular like usually, instead it posted fine then. I still have the .har recording of it triggering if that helps...

Edit: Here it is - http://www.file-upload.net/download-118 ... 2.zip.html

Peace
TK

Yep.. must be another American captcha *24 situation.