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27 May 2007, 4:28 pm

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Calendale - I truly have no desire to continue this with you. Ultimatly, the discussion merely boils down to either powers exist or they do not.. which can go nowhere. Do you understand?


You're the one who began that. I agree. But,
you still never answered the underlying question
of why you were such an ass, other than by making
more asinine posts on this thread. One really wonders
whether you belong in this community at all.



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27 May 2007, 4:32 pm

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Why be civil to him?


He seems to think that I'm avoiding some question he asked.


And HE should talk? When someone politely enquires as to the purpose
of a particularly inflammatory picture in order to see whether he was
merely trolling, and he responds with an attack on that person's faith?



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27 May 2007, 4:34 pm

As for your first point, you keep posting, just as I do, so this whole "You need the last post for your ego" attack clearly doesn't work on either of us, does it?

But I was leaving? Sure, I grew bored. Then I became rather intoxicated. Then I needed sleep. I do find it interesting to read the responses of others. I also mentioned I would be back this morning for a chuckle. That was in the one post, believe it or not. A couple of them, I believe.

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2. In leaving, you have attempted to use your age (which you've never even stated) as a source of superiority. Age means relatively nothing if you've never accomplished anything. Additionally, playing the age game in and of itself displays a total lack of maturity, no?

Two posts ago I explained why. I even cut back a bit. Yet you keep on with that aggressive business. I told you why I did it, because I figured it would irritate you. That whole baiting thing I mentioned?

If you kept on because of intentions of irritating another individual, then that is trolling. You used a derogatory insult to gain a reaction (which wasn't even given), and then continued with it. This shows immaturity from you, and frankly it disapointed me. I was expecting you'd have been someone I could hold a proper argument with, yet instead you hid behind facts and used "you are a kid I can do what I want" as your counter.

Now you're twisting words a bit. Sure, I trolled a bit, and you continued. Any post is a reaction, believe it or not. Unfortunately I'm not concerned with your approval. I am concerned with your inability to spell disappointed. I find it a bit disappointing. :P

I also never used the "you are a kid I can do what I want" business. If you felt that way, well, you misinterpreted it. I don't see a need to apologize for that.

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3. Up until now, every single remark from you has consisted of "you are a child and as such I refuse to answer your points, but would rather continue calling you a child due to a lack of originality and innability to produce a proper argument." Going to call me a child again?

No, I don't. Again, I already explained why I did it. I haven't done so since, have I?

Correct, you have not. You realized it was wrong.

Not wrong, just no longer useful. I'm afraid I don't need you helping me out with morality. I think it is pretty clear from your posts that you aren't exactly an expert in that field. Thanks for trying to help! :D

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And lastly..

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Pretty big demands. All I requested was that you restate the question. I'm glad you wanted written out responses over sound clips or videos, I don't have a camera, and my microphone sucks. :P

All I really expect (which, with the tone you write in, is pretty close to demand. You're making "requirements" for people to meet before you grace them with a response...) is that you post whatever question you claimed I didn't answer. Would that be possible?

As for acting one's age, I've been doing that since I sobered up. You, on the other hand, keep attacking. Is there a purpose to this?

I'll reiterate what I said to 0_equals_true. I said expect, not demand. I figured itallizing the word would get it through to you, but that apparently failed. Additionally..
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You're making "requirements" for people to meet before you grace them with a response

Wrong. I'm simply not responding to those who continue with "you are an idiot" type posts/insults again and again, preferring to disregard logic. What is wrong with that? You can't get anywhere with those people, so why bother?


Tone has a lot to do with it. Like now, you are attempting to speak down to me. It is a nice way of being aggressive and trying to get others to yield. (By the way, like how I italicized that? Again, you type rather eloquently, but what's with these silly typos? Before you can address it, yes, I'm using something as minor as spelling. Not as a serious attack, so don't get all riled up. :wink: )

As for why bother? (Emphasis mine.) Well, the same could be said about you. Going through many of your posts, it really looks like you're trying to "show off," to get approval, to get people to praise your intelligence. Something along those lines. You might find that discussing things in a civil way, actually contributing to this site, rather than insulting others right off the bat after posting a "This isn't intentional plz don't ban" disclaimer, would be much more successful. Oh, right, you aren't looking for approval or "marks" either.

Now, back to that whole question bit. Didn't you say I had some unanswered question from you? Do I need to "expect" you to post it next or "ignore" your next post as a waste of my time?

This is how demands work. If A is not met, then B is not given. If you expect something, well, if A is not met, B could still occur. I hope that makes sense. (Take note of that last bit. "I hope that makes sense." Yes, that's similar to some things you have said! Meant to belittle the other person's intelligence! Used merely as an example here, but feel free to go after that as well. I couldn't leave you without any fuel! :wink: )

Oh, and lastly, you quite done with the age bit? I thought we covered that pretty well. In fact, that was most of the substance of your last post. Can we move on now?



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27 May 2007, 4:38 pm

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You're the one who began that. I agree. But,
you still never answered the underlying question
of why you were such an ass, other than by making
more asinine posts on this thread. One really wonders
whether you belong in this community at all.

You've called me an ass, disregarded any logic in my posts for the sake of, in your opinion, noticing them as asinine, and questioned my status in the community as an attempt to justify your thoughts on banning me. One really wonders whether you deserve mod rights at all.


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27 May 2007, 4:38 pm

I thought you weren't going to respond to me. Oh I'm flattered. I don't mind continuing with you, I bet you feel really smart now I responded. I must be thick to actually respond when I don't care but play your stupid game. Well maybe I am, but that doesn’t make you any smarter. There you go get your jollies off. You still don't win anything. Why last two pages? I was talking about the ret*d picture that you recycled. Let me guess you have an intelligent explanation? The onus is on you then. You won’t come up with a decent argument but since I don't actually care I shan’t reply again.



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27 May 2007, 4:42 pm

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Ramsus really wonders whether you deserve mod rights at all.


Fixed! 8)



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27 May 2007, 4:48 pm

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As for your first point, you keep posting, just as I do, so this whole "You need the last post for your ego" attack clearly doesn't work on either of us, does it?

Whether you were in the thread or not, I had other posters to respond to aside from YOU. Not everything revolves around Shadexiii. Get over yourself.

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But I was leaving? Sure, I grew bored. Then I became rather intoxicated. Then I needed sleep. I do find it interesting to read the responses of others. I also mentioned I would be back this morning for a chuckle. That was in the one post, believe it or not. A couple of them, I believe.

Is this your attempt to justify being a hypocrite?

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Sure, I trolled a bit

Point proven. It took you long enough to admit it.

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I'm afraid I don't need you helping me out with morality. I think it is pretty clear from your posts that you aren't exactly an expert in that field. Thanks for trying to help! :D

I'd have thought you'd know the differance between morality and rationality.

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Tone has a lot to do with it. Like now, you are attempting to speak down to me.
Quote what you consider talking down to. I don't see it.

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Again, you type rather eloquently

Sucking up won't help you now.

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As for why bother? (Emphasis mine.) Well, the same could be said about you.

I LOVE arguing, and I made this clear from the start. You apparently just want the last word, and frankly, I don't see why you even began attacking me in the first place. You threw the first insult; I just didn't let you get away with it.

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I hope that makes sense. (Take note of that last bit. "I hope that makes sense." Yes, that's similar to some things you have said! Meant to belittle the other person's intelligence! Used merely as an example here, but feel free to go after that as well. I couldn't leave you without any fuel! :wink: )

You sound quite agitated. Getting under your skin, aye?


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27 May 2007, 4:49 pm

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You're the one who began that. I agree. But,
you still never answered the underlying question
of why you were such an ass, other than by making
more asinine posts on this thread. One really wonders
whether you belong in this community at all.

You've called me an ass, disregarded any logic in my posts for the sake of, in your opinion, noticing them as asinine, and questioned my status in the community as an attempt to justify your thoughts on banning me. One really wonders whether you deserve mod rights at all.


It just seems, from what little I've noticed of you,
that you made a completely random and unwarranted
attack on a valued member. Then, you found no reason
to explain it, but rather mocked my own matters of faith.

That does indeed seem to be the acts of an ass. I'm sorry
if you find the term offensive. I don't have the right to ban
you, and wouldn't with what you've shown, even if I did. It
does seem that you could get more out of this forum than
by simply trolling it though, which is against the rules of
conduct. Anyhow, since you seem to enjoy troll vs. troll
more than attacking those who are actually trying to use
this forum for good, enjoy your conversation with shadexii.



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27 May 2007, 4:52 pm

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That does indeed seem to be the acts of an ass.

I'm an a**hole. DUH!


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27 May 2007, 4:59 pm

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As for your first point, you keep posting, just as I do, so this whole "You need the last post for your ego" attack clearly doesn't work on either of us, does it?

Whether you were in the thread or not, I had other posters to respond to aside from YOU. Not everything revolves around Shadexiii. Get over yourself.

You are just GREAT at projection! I meant in response to me, but take it as you will. :wink:

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But I was leaving? Sure, I grew bored. Then I became rather intoxicated. Then I needed sleep. I do find it interesting to read the responses of others. I also mentioned I would be back this morning for a chuckle. That was in the one post, believe it or not. A couple of them, I believe.

Is this your attempt to justify being a hypocrite?

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Are you by anychance.. like ten years old?

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You threw the first insult; I just didn't let you get away with it.

Hey, pot, my name's kettle! :lol:

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Sure, I trolled a bit

Point proven. It took you long enough to admit it.

I guess that puts me ahead by a point! Still waiting on you. :wink:
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I'm afraid I don't need you helping me out with morality. I think it is pretty clear from your posts that you aren't exactly an expert in that field. Thanks for trying to help! :D

I'd have thought you'd know the differance between morality and rationality.

I believe you meant difference. You said wrong, that generally implies morality or ethics. You could have used the word irrational. I think that would have been the rational thing to do. 8)

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Tone has a lot to do with it. Like now, you are attempting to speak down to me.
Quote what you consider talking down to. I don't see it.

Eh, my bad, maybe it is just arrogance on your part.
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Again, you type rather eloquently

Sucking up won't help you now.

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What purpose do I have to suck up to you? I think most people realize that that is what you want, but I have no intention of it. I didn't realize that making a statement would be sucking up to you. Also, it was to provide contrast. Sorry if that wasn't clear. I guess I'll have to make sure I spell things out a bit better for you.

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As for why bother? (Emphasis mine.) Well, the same could be said about you.

I LOVE arguing, and I made this clear from the start. You apparently just want the last word, and frankly, I don't see why you even began attacking me in the first place. You threw the first insult; I just didn't let you get away with it.

Is that why you won't say what that question is that you tried holding over my head? Nothing left to argue about after that?
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I hope that makes sense. (Take note of that last bit. "I hope that makes sense." Yes, that's similar to some things you have said! Meant to belittle the other person's intelligence! Used merely as an example here, but feel free to go after that as well. I couldn't leave you without any fuel! :wink: )

You sound quite agitated. Getting under your skin, aye?

Hah, hardly. I'm rather enjoying this now. (Though from my old trolling days, I'm sure you have a nice big grin on your face, thinking I'm upset. Been there, done that, sorry to disappoint. :cry: )

Or is it you that is agitated now? Nah, I won't go that far, all that would happen is you would say you weren't, be it denial or truth.

I'm taking a break for now, got some things to do around the apartment. Don't fret, Ramsus, I'll be back in a bit!

Edit: Just to make sure you don't make an incorrect assumption, I'm only saying that because everyone else seems to be getting bored with this. If you want to, you can use that to say I'm convinced the world revolves around me...again. I didn't want you to get lonesome, that's all.



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27 May 2007, 5:09 pm

Ramsus, could you please cease and desist? shadexiii, stop feeding the troll.


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27 May 2007, 5:10 pm

Shadexiii wrote:
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Whether you were in the thread or not, I had other posters to respond to aside from YOU. Not everything revolves around Shadexiii. Get over yourself.

You are just GREAT at projection! I meant in response to me, but take it as you will. :wink:


That'd only work if the response actually was to you.

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Ramsus wrote:
Are you by anychance.. like ten years old?

Ramsus wrote:
You threw the first insult; I just didn't let you get away with it.

Hey, pot, my name's kettle! :lol:


Once more. That'd only work if the insult had been towards you.

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Tone has a lot to do with it. Like now, you are attempting to speak down to me.
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Quote what you consider talking down to. I don't see it.

Eh, my bad, maybe it is just arrogance on your part.

You didn't provide a quote. You instead hid behind another insult. You're ohso predictable.

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Again, you type rather eloquently
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Sucking up won't help you now.
:lol: What purpose do I have to suck up to you?

An attempt for you to avoid getting OWNDIZZLED.

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Hah, hardly. I'm rather enjoying this now. (Though from my old trolling days, I'm sure you have a nice big grin on your face, thinking I'm upset. Been there, done that, sorry to disappoint. )

Or is it you that is agitated now? Nah, I won't go that far, all that would happen is you would say you weren't, be it denial or truth.

I'm taking a break for now, got some things to do around the apartment. Don't fret, Ramsus, I'll be back in a bit!

Edit: Just to make sure you don't make an incorrect assumption, I'm only saying that because everyone else seems to be getting bored with this. If you want to, you can use that to say I'm convinced the world revolves around me...again. I didn't want you to get lonesome, that's all.


With that laughable reaction to a simple observation, you clearly ARE agitated. :o


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27 May 2007, 5:16 pm

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Shadexiii, could you please cease and desist? Ramsus, stop feeding the troll.


Corrected.


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27 May 2007, 5:19 pm

Ramsus wrote:
That'd only work if the response actually was to you.

So I should speak only when spoken to? Yessum, massa.

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Ramsus wrote:
Are you by anychance.. like ten years old?

Ramsus wrote:
You threw the first insult; I just didn't let you get away with it.

Hey, pot, my name's kettle! :lol:


Once more. That'd only work if the insult had been towards you.

Try learning about the concept of community. It doesn't matter if it was used towards me or not. The age issue is brought up, as well as the "first strike." Fair for you, but not for me? Hmmm... I think someone else already mentioned this!
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Tone has a lot to do with it. Like now, you are attempting to speak down to me.
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Quote what you consider talking down to. I don't see it.

Eh, my bad, maybe it is just arrogance on your part.

You didn't provide a quote. You instead hid behind another insult. You're ohso predictable.

You wanted me to re-post most of your posts? Why bother... If you need an example, read most of what you've written. If you really can't see it, tell me, I'll find one for you. I hope you don't consider that avoiding the issue. I've told you I'll do it, if you really need it. I'm not sure the point, you will likely just say "No I wasn't, you misinterpreted it, that's your fault," but I have a feeling that many here would agree with me on the tone issue.

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Again, you type rather eloquently
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Sucking up won't help you now.
:lol: What purpose do I have to suck up to you?

An attempt for you to avoid getting OWNDIZZLED.

I really don't have any concern over being "beaten" in some sort of "game" by anyone that uses the word "owndizzled." :lol: If you care about "winning" so much, I'm half-tempted just to ignore this thread and force you to "win" by default. :P

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Hah, hardly. I'm rather enjoying this now. (Though from my old trolling days, I'm sure you have a nice big grin on your face, thinking I'm upset. Been there, done that, sorry to disappoint. )

Or is it you that is agitated now? Nah, I won't go that far, all that would happen is you would say you weren't, be it denial or truth.

I'm taking a break for now, got some things to do around the apartment. Don't fret, Ramsus, I'll be back in a bit!

Edit: Just to make sure you don't make an incorrect assumption, I'm only saying that because everyone else seems to be getting bored with this. If you want to, you can use that to say I'm convinced the world revolves around me...again. I didn't want you to get lonesome, that's all.


With that laughable reaction to a simple observation, you clearly ARE agitated. :o


Again, afraid not. Since you project a great deal, I'm beginning to believe that you might be agitated, but again, what good does it do to make such claims? They can't be backed up with any verification, so all it is is meaningless gloating over nothing. Well, whatever floats your boat!

Oh yeah, you ever come up with that question for me? Or should I give up on asking for it? You seemed pretty concerned with getting an answer earlier. What changed?



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27 May 2007, 5:26 pm

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That does indeed seem to be the acts of an ass.

I'm an a**hole. DUH!


Discussion over. I don't see any point in
any of us continuing. There is no hope for
this one.



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27 May 2007, 5:27 pm

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Try learning about the concept of community.


Community? I don't understand why you would step to the aid of a mental idiot.

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You wanted me to re-post most of your posts? Why bother... If you need an example, read most of what you've written. If you really can't see it, tell me, I'll find one for you. I hope you don't consider that avoiding the issue. I've told you I'll do it, if you really need it. I'm not sure the point, you will likely just say "No I wasn't, you misinterpreted it, that's your fault," but I have a feeling that many here would agree with me on the tone issue.

You still havn't provided that quote.

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Again, you type rather eloquently
Ramsus wrote:
Sucking up won't help you now.
:lol: What purpose do I have to suck up to you?
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An attempt for you to avoid getting OWNDIZZLED.

I really don't have any concern over being "beaten" in some sort of "game" by anyone that uses the word "owndizzled." :lol: If you care about "winning" so much, I'm half-tempted just to ignore this thread and force you to "win" by default. :P

OWNDIZZLED!

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Oh yeah, you ever come up with that question for me? Or should I give up on asking for it? You seemed pretty concerned with getting an answer earlier. What changed?

In your short mindedness, you've overlooked that this "question" you've been going frantic about has already been covered. I'd asked you to address my points. After reposting them multiple times, you eventually did.. in your skewered perspective of things.


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