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Whoops! probably shouldn't of just posted a picture of the vegetable supremacist 
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16 Aug 2020, 11:03 pm
It's nice to see you back posting Isabella 
I've experienced being lashed out at by people I believed wanted help, it has a valid potential to cause harm to others, being elevated to a place where this is a protected behaviour creates a toxic environment.
The responders may or may not have posted about their own challenges, some are more private, but lack of clicks on their non existent threads shouldnt lower the importance of their wellbeing.
I believe the rule about not causing further distress should be a standard for everyone, the OP included, not just those who reply.
We dont know, nor can we verify what challenges people actually face.
16 Aug 2020, 11:26 pm
16 Aug 2020, 11:30 pm
IsabellaLinton wrote:
I agree. Shaming, mocking and ridiculing others by name, by insinuation, or by generalisations is never OK.
Well, there goes my game plan when I venture into PPR. <sigh>
I guess I best not go there, then.
16 Aug 2020, 11:38 pm
Amity wrote:
It's nice to see you back posting Isabella
I've experienced being lashed out at by people I believed wanted help, it has a valid potential to cause harm to others, being elevated to a place where this is a protected behaviour creates a toxic environment.
The responders may or may not have posted about their own challenges, some are more private, but lack of clicks on their non existent threads shouldnt lower the importance of their wellbeing.
I believe the rule about not causing further distress should be a standard for everyone, the OP included, not just those who reply.
We dont know, nor can we verify what challenges people actually face.
I've experienced being lashed out at by people I believed wanted help, it has a valid potential to cause harm to others, being elevated to a place where this is a protected behaviour creates a toxic environment.
The responders may or may not have posted about their own challenges, some are more private, but lack of clicks on their non existent threads shouldnt lower the importance of their wellbeing.
I believe the rule about not causing further distress should be a standard for everyone, the OP included, not just those who reply.
We dont know, nor can we verify what challenges people actually face.
I've also had people lash out at me randomly here too when I wasn't even being insulting or mean. I just put them on my black list.
I have had my posts randomly be reported on Reddit as well because somehow my tone sounded off even though I wasn't belittling anyone nor making fun of anyone.
That was where I was coming from when I said anything can be a personal attack. I just wish people would stop assuming people are intentionally not following that rule.
16 Aug 2020, 11:39 pm
League_Girl wrote:
Thank god that is in the past what Fnord is talking about.
Yeah there is bad moderation on the internet. I've gotten myself booted from a group for dumbing down my language to someone who claimed I was making myself look stupid so I told her back she was the one being stupid, not me. Turns out she was one of the mods of the group and I found out from other former members she will insult members to provoke them so they will attack her so she will have a reason to boot them. Talk about mod abuse.
It's human to lash back when someone attacks you or insults you.
Yeah there is bad moderation on the internet. I've gotten myself booted from a group for dumbing down my language to someone who claimed I was making myself look stupid so I told her back she was the one being stupid, not me. Turns out she was one of the mods of the group and I found out from other former members she will insult members to provoke them so they will attack her so she will have a reason to boot them. Talk about mod abuse.
It's human to lash back when someone attacks you or insults you.
That is a common and rather unimaginative way of mod abuse.
I think it is more complex/interesting if minions and sock-puppets are involved.
16 Aug 2020, 11:58 pm
League_Girl wrote:
Amity wrote:
It's nice to see you back posting Isabella
I've experienced being lashed out at by people I believed wanted help, it has a valid potential to cause harm to others, being elevated to a place where this is a protected behaviour creates a toxic environment.
The responders may or may not have posted about their own challenges, some are more private, but lack of clicks on their non existent threads shouldnt lower the importance of their wellbeing.
I believe the rule about not causing further distress should be a standard for everyone, the OP included, not just those who reply.
We dont know, nor can we verify what challenges people actually face.
I've experienced being lashed out at by people I believed wanted help, it has a valid potential to cause harm to others, being elevated to a place where this is a protected behaviour creates a toxic environment.
The responders may or may not have posted about their own challenges, some are more private, but lack of clicks on their non existent threads shouldnt lower the importance of their wellbeing.
I believe the rule about not causing further distress should be a standard for everyone, the OP included, not just those who reply.
We dont know, nor can we verify what challenges people actually face.
I've also had people lash out at me randomly here too when I wasn't even being insulting or mean. I just put them on my black list.
I have had my posts randomly be reported on Reddit as well because somehow my tone sounded off even though I wasn't belittling anyone nor making fun of anyone.
That was where I was coming from when I said anything can be a personal attack. I just wish people would stop assuming people are intentionally not following that rule.
I guess it's easier to believe that its intentional, a simple solution and the problem seems solved.
Except it's not, a one size fits all approach adds another layer of complication to a miscommunication.
Building perhaps on previous traumas around miscommunications.
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17 Aug 2020, 12:13 am
17 Aug 2020, 12:21 am
Pepe wrote:
League_Girl wrote:
Thank god that is in the past what Fnord is talking about.
Yeah there is bad moderation on the internet. I've gotten myself booted from a group for dumbing down my language to someone who claimed I was making myself look stupid so I told her back she was the one being stupid, not me. Turns out she was one of the mods of the group and I found out from other former members she will insult members to provoke them so they will attack her so she will have a reason to boot them. Talk about mod abuse.
It's human to lash back when someone attacks you or insults you.
Yeah there is bad moderation on the internet. I've gotten myself booted from a group for dumbing down my language to someone who claimed I was making myself look stupid so I told her back she was the one being stupid, not me. Turns out she was one of the mods of the group and I found out from other former members she will insult members to provoke them so they will attack her so she will have a reason to boot them. Talk about mod abuse.
It's human to lash back when someone attacks you or insults you.
That is a common and rather unimaginative way of mod abuse.
I think it is more complex/interesting if minions and sock-puppets are involved.
TBH I felt from the start the mod had set me up to attack her and to dumb down my words to get her to understand what I am talking about so she would boot me. Then I heard from other former members a similar thing had happened to them when they complained about that group and that mod and it was obvious what mod they were talking about. So I wasn't wrong when I imagined that.
Surprise surprise I hear the group is pretty much dead now. Most of them had moved into a chat is why.
17 Aug 2020, 12:44 am
Teach51 wrote:
A few weeks ago a lady from the UAE posted asking for advice about her ASD child, it was her first post I think, a polite and short post I am not sure which forum. This is a lady who searched the internet until she found us. A light in the darkness of her struggle, reaching out to people who may give her a glimmer of hope. Reaching out for help to strangers can sometimes be a difficult move.
One response from a WP member absolutely shocked me. All he said was something on the lines of: Move to another country where they don't abuse peoples' civil rights. Something along these lines.
What happened here is this.
A woman asks for help not talking about the country she lives in but she writes United Arab Emirates on her profile.
The said member ignored her question but attacked her country. I don't need to elaborate on how wrong this is. Nasty, even prejudiced and deliberate.
The lady of course disappeared.
I wanted to report it because it seemed so verbally violent to me and I felt so bad for her. She came for help and got a slap in the face.
What is the lesson to be learned here? I don't know. It was a personal attack on a complete stranger, on her homeland , that she has the right to love and respect and had nothing to do with her question.
I don't want to say who made this hurtful, irreversible error but I suggest that we read our posts several times before posting to avoid such incidents.
Mother seeking help = attacking her country. Is that appropriate? Not sure. If I am not sure then I won't post it.
One response from a WP member absolutely shocked me. All he said was something on the lines of: Move to another country where they don't abuse peoples' civil rights. Something along these lines.
What happened here is this.
A woman asks for help not talking about the country she lives in but she writes United Arab Emirates on her profile.
The said member ignored her question but attacked her country. I don't need to elaborate on how wrong this is. Nasty, even prejudiced and deliberate.
The lady of course disappeared.
I wanted to report it because it seemed so verbally violent to me and I felt so bad for her. She came for help and got a slap in the face.
What is the lesson to be learned here? I don't know. It was a personal attack on a complete stranger, on her homeland , that she has the right to love and respect and had nothing to do with her question.
I don't want to say who made this hurtful, irreversible error but I suggest that we read our posts several times before posting to avoid such incidents.
Mother seeking help = attacking her country. Is that appropriate? Not sure. If I am not sure then I won't post it.
that is awful
you're v compassionate.
i would have reported. but looking back, i didn't report another user's post that was very abusive and racist towards someone here...so i probably wouldn't have. but not out of compassion.. .just from feeling sure no action would be taken..
17 Aug 2020, 12:49 am
