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Progressive suspensions for spammers?
Good idea 63%  63%  [ 15 ]
Bad idea 25%  25%  [ 6 ]
Other 13%  13%  [ 3 ]
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Mitch8817
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25 Nov 2006, 2:30 pm

>>I am going to extend a peace offering, as this is an important place for my nephew, and I'm sure that most of you are wonderful people. I hope this thread dies out and that peace love and understanding return to your Aspie forum.<<

But the issue will still remain unresolved, which will lead to further issues. I don't think this is one of those things that goes away.

>>I agree that I could have been less aggressive, but when someone attacks a kid (and especially one in the family) in the way that some of you have, it deserves action.<<

I am merely expressing my concerns and opinions over an issue, which would not be different no matter the person's age.

>>I will also agree that the "spam" that you talk about can be annoying<<

So you agree with me then? If so, what do you propose be done in order to put an end to this problem? I want to here everyone's voices - not just complaining, because by now we are all well aware of the problem, but I want to hear solutions.



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25 Nov 2006, 2:35 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
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I don't see that as a sense of self importance. I see that as an obligation to do what I can to help my younger brothers and sisters. "The hell with what anybody else wants or needs" would constitute a sense of self-importance. (Actually, for myself, I would prefer to indulge my shyness, partly out of concern that I might appear "self-important," but I was instructed not to hide my light.) Shall we move on to preoccupations?


Not going to debate if you have NPD anymore. The defense rest its case on that the jury can decide that.

Wouldn't I be the defense? Let's see, that would make you... the prosecution! Anyway, this has been fun. We'll have to do it again sometime. :wink:


No your the plaintive this is a civil matter.

I hate to be presumptuous and give the plaintive addvice but it would be nice if you
gave some examples of OWA posts that are out of line. Please provide the links
for the jury if you do not mind. This "boggieman"use of the word spam may have you on the high ground now but when I get some sleep I'm going to come back stronger than I have everybeen here. :D

No, you ain't goin' to bed yet.

I thought the charge was NPD.

I'm starting to think you're either the dumbest or the smartest person on the planet. Because I'm optimistic, and for other reasons, I tend to think the latter.

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... 563#354563

I was going to get more examples but it takes a long time, and I can't seriously believe you're challenging the spamming charge. :?


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25 Nov 2006, 2:39 pm

In any other forum I know of, the following would happen:

a) a user behaves objectionably
b) a moderator asks said user to give over
c) user carries on doing said action
d) moderator this time demands the behaviour to cease
e) user carries on regardless
f) badly-behaving user ends up being banned

If I was in your house and I was pissing you off by doing something wrong, you'd do a similar sort of thing. You wouldn't just sit back and tolerate it endlessly. Now, OWA has been asked to give over. What do you do about it if he doesn't give over when asked? It's not about being low-functioning, it's about being deliberately mendacious.



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25 Nov 2006, 2:41 pm

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when someone attacks a kid (and especially one in the family) in the way that some of you have,

I attacked a behavior.
Who attacked a kid? Show me.
(Don't kids belong in the kids' crater?)


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25 Nov 2006, 2:42 pm

OWA is about 13 or 14 IIRC.



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25 Nov 2006, 2:44 pm

Mitch8817 wrote:
EDIT: I for one do not like the threat of a ban. It reminds me of religion - comply or go to Hell. Sorry for the religious reference there, I do not mean to offend - it is just what came to mind.


No I'm with you 100% on religion being a crock . :D Yeah I blame myself I use to post
alot on the same threads with OWA and after the whole Werbert "leaving thing" I lost
interest in the humor. So that kinda left OWA on his own. I did have mix feelings
of killing the comic man TheMachine1 but people thought I was compelely insane
and were not taking me serious so I stopped. OWA was born on WP during my watch
and I let him down by not defending and guiding him. I had no idea he was so young
till much later and to be honest did not really think he was 14 even up till this thread.

So we will solve the problem like this. Instead of me ducking my responiblity and having to resort to a thread like this every few weeks. I'm going to be at his side
making sure any problems people have are worked out. Even before this thread the
thread with the other 14 yo getting "attacked" in the Love forum got me thinking that lowwer functioning aspie here will have to work together to make sure their not forced
out because they can not walk a much harder social skills line.



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25 Nov 2006, 2:53 pm

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OWA is about 13 or 14 IIRC.

Yeah, I know, not an adult, not a child, trying to get a foothold in the adult world. This is just part of the process.


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25 Nov 2006, 2:57 pm

MrMark wrote:

http://www.wrongplanet.net/modules.php? ... 563#354563

I was going to get more examples but it takes a long time, and I can't seriously believe you're challenging the spamming charge. :?


Great example for the defense. You must be providing that link as joke. Again jury
read the entire thread. Read what the OP said first many times and his last post(he made) many times. He open the whole thread up as semi-serious and like he said on this thread when OWA crossed the line he was warned and he stopped! The random
topic area if you have not figured out MrMark is the primary Humor area of WP and
thats what the thread was.

Jury who do not know you can click on an user's profile and read their post history.
Its rather simple to skim though hundreds of his latest posts . Look for a thread that
you think should be serious and read what he wrote in it. Naturally in threads for
fun none of this outrage from MrMark should matters. If your saying your
aginst the whole thread as spam ,then will Kabaz please state how he likes being called
a spammer. :D



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25 Nov 2006, 2:59 pm

It's an unspoken rule that you don't fill threads up with nonsense. It's like if I called you names. You shouldn't need to tell me to stop in the first place.

Anyway, this thread is now going nowhere...



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25 Nov 2006, 3:00 pm

Anyway, it appears that the problem of excessive spam from OWA and others (you know who you are, and so do we :wink: ) has been addressed. At least my mailbox is not today filling up with topic response notifications for spam posts. Thanks.


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25 Nov 2006, 3:04 pm

MrMark wrote:
I can't seriously believe you're challenging the spamming charge. :?


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25 Nov 2006, 3:17 pm

MrMark wrote:
Anyway, it appears that the problem of excessive spam from OWA and others (you know who you are, and so do we :wink: ) has been addressed. At least my mailbox is not today filling up with topic response notifications for spam posts. Thanks.


Now we are making progess in understanding each other MrMark!! !! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I had no idea people were getting e-mails/pm about his post I do not have that set on
my account. Simple solutiion then Alex when he gets the time can adjust OWA account so his post do not trigger an e-mail alert. End of story good night, judge throws
out case.



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25 Nov 2006, 3:20 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
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Anyway, it appears that the problem of excessive spam from OWA and others (you know who you are, and so do we :wink: ) has been addressed. At least my mailbox is not today filling up with topic response notifications for spam posts. Thanks.


Now we are making progess in understanding each other MrMark!! !! :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

I had no idea people were getting e-mails/pm about his post I do not have that set on
my account. Simple solutiion then Alex when he gets the time can adjust OWA account so his post do not trigger an e-mail alert. End of story good night, judge throws
out case.


Tequila I ask why you brought up e-mail and spam. Been nice if you could have explained that hours ago. Judge begin trial against Tequila Tommorrow.



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25 Nov 2006, 3:24 pm

You know, if four of my neighbors complain that my dog was barking all night, they don't have to produce a tape recording, I don't even need to have heard it, to convince me...


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25 Nov 2006, 3:29 pm

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Tequila I ask why you brought up e-mail and spam. Been nice if you could have explained that hours ago. Judge begin trial against Tequila Tommorrow.


I was trying to offer a comparison. Not a very good one. The house one was better. WP is the property of Alex Plank, after all - not your (or my) personal plaything.

Now, will you... right off with your dogshit please? Merci.



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25 Nov 2006, 3:45 pm

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Okay, okay, here's the situation for the self-diagnosed 'fake' Aspies. They may be self-diagnosed, but at least they know that they're similar, very similar, and it is always nice to talk to others who you can relate to. Another thing to think about is just how gosh-darn hard it is for some users to actually get someone who's both qualified AND smart enough to give them a proper diagnosis. They could be Aspie and yet never have the chance to prove it.


Yeah the way I look at it DX is not that important. The common thread is social cognition problems leading to poor/delayed learing of social skills. One we all
may have started with different levels of impairment but a few facts are clear
as we get older we get less impaired (learn to adapt to the NT world). Which
means older people here tend to be less impaired than younger people. Also its clear
that the level of impairment tends to worst in males than females. So that means
we have a true spectrum here. I'm seeing a high percent of the conflict coming from
the imbalance of impairment in the people here. In another thread a 14 yo guy wrote
a simple statement about a break up and a 30 year or so old aspie man and women
who both had mates seem to lable him as a nazi-war criminal. And then even the 14
yo old girl involved got mad.Again impairment in females is typically less but we can only guess in this case. But onething I do not need to guess is about is the 14 yo
had a hard time finding anywords to explain the situation and likely could not
communicate with her . She thought he was a real ba$tard but It just might be an extreme imbalance in social skills of the to. She was cute and will find a mate when
shes olders but of all the people involved in the thread the 14 yo boy has the bleakest
future. Yet he likely is feeling very unhappy with WP. Where will he go?



Machine1 why are you trying to blame the female aspies for this? You say females are not as impaired and don't have any problems with communication and socialization. You say that female aspies have it so easy. How do you know this? When i was a teenager i was extremely withdrawn and isolated and was practically a mute. Maybe their are female aspie members here no one even knows about because they are unable to post. And they are unable to defend themselves against your accusations. I can sympathize with all aspies not just the females. You seem to not be able to empathize with anyone who is not a male like yourself. According to you any aspie male who has a problem on this board - lets blame it on the female aspies.