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12 Mar 2007, 6:01 pm

I think he's gone. He'll probably be back under a new nom-de-spam soon though.

I might be changing my mind about the Mod situation after this evening's fun and games. It was extremely irritating.



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12 Mar 2007, 6:08 pm

Morning here. We need at least one or two more mods who are able to respond quicker.

Okay, how many mods do we have?


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12 Mar 2007, 6:15 pm

Reminds me of the basic mechanism of how tyranny starts.people want to feel safe so
they give the government more power.

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12 Mar 2007, 6:19 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
Reminds me of the basic mechanism of how tyranny starts.people want to feel safe so they give the government more power.


It wouldn't be (shouldn't be) more power, but more people able to use it when necessary. Not like more police, more like more firemen. The closest can respond to the fire, and it would be more likely that one would be on-duty when / if a fire broke out.



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12 Mar 2007, 6:22 pm

shadexiii wrote:
TheMachine1 wrote:
Reminds me of the basic mechanism of how tyranny starts.people want to feel safe so they give the government more power.


It wouldn't be (shouldn't be) more power, but more people able to use it when necessary. Not like more police, more like more firemen. The closest can respond to the fire, and it would be more likely that one would be on-duty when / if a fire broke out.


Good analogy. We only need a couple of more mods anyway, just in the right timezones. Flagg earlier said I'd make a good mod, but I reckon that I'd be like [GM] Dave from Bannable Offences.


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12 Mar 2007, 6:24 pm

TheMachine1 wrote:
Reminds me of the basic mechanism of how tyranny starts.people want to feel safe so
they give the government more power.


I have to disagree with you on that point. It is when people become corrupt and scared that it turns into tyranny. We need more moderators. Tyranny on a forum is because of irresponsible moderators and admins who abuse their power.
Having more moderators is a neccessity for this forum. People shouldn't fear the right power in the right hands.


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12 Mar 2007, 6:29 pm

a moderator was on duty when the spammer struck but moderators don't have the power to completely pwn a spammer to death.


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12 Mar 2007, 6:31 pm

alex wrote:
a moderator was on duty when the spammer struck but moderators don't have the power to completely pwn a spammer to death.


"Pwn"?


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12 Mar 2007, 6:34 pm

Quatermass wrote:
alex wrote:
a moderator was on duty when the spammer struck but moderators don't have the power to completely pwn a spammer to death.


"Pwn"?


...take care of a spammer would have been a better way to put it.

Then again, this is part of the problem. There are all of.... one? (That's a guess, but I think it is pretty accurate) people that can "handle" a spammer problem completely. That alone will cause problems.



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12 Mar 2007, 6:38 pm

shadexiii wrote:
Quatermass wrote:
alex wrote:
a moderator was on duty when the spammer struck but moderators don't have the power to completely pwn a spammer to death.


"Pwn"?


...take care of a spammer would have been a better way to put it.

Then again, this is part of the problem. There are all of.... one? (That's a guess, but I think it is pretty accurate) people that can "handle" a spammer problem completely. That alone will cause problems.


Sorry. I'm a stickler for good English skills. I usually only use l33tspeek in a humorous or sarcastic manner.

In fact, I'm going to post a topic elsewhere on good erudition...


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12 Mar 2007, 6:38 pm

I thought moderators had the ability to lock threads, even if not to delete them. If they do not have the power to delete offensive threads I am not sure I understand why not.


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12 Mar 2007, 6:42 pm

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I thought moderators had the ability to lock threads, even if not to delete them. If they do not have the power to delete offensive threads I am not sure I understand why not.


they have the ability to do that.


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12 Mar 2007, 6:44 pm

The process I have observed is most meaningfully posting stops during a spam/troll attack because the users began reading the attackers posts and responding to it.

Basically many people have admitted the attacker has the power and you need a strong outside force to make you feel safe.

I say let the process of evolution play itself out and those that can not tolerate the situation should weed themselves out of the equation.



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12 Mar 2007, 6:44 pm

alex wrote:
Graelwyn wrote:
I thought moderators had the ability to lock threads, even if not to delete them. If they do not have the power to delete offensive threads I am not sure I understand why not.


they have the ability to do that.


I think Alex meant they can't IP ban them to hell, and instigate legal proceedings.


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12 Mar 2007, 6:46 pm

I realise that, I suppose I am just confused as to why the threads were not deleted or locked if a mod was on at the time the spamming was occurring, unless it was seen as pointless until the member could be banned fully?


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12 Mar 2007, 6:50 pm

Graelwyn wrote:
I realise that, I suppose I am just confused as to why the threads were not deleted or locked if a mod was on at the time the spamming was occurring, unless it was seen as pointless until the member could be banned fully?


most were deleted. he posted 100s of threads


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