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04 Nov 2015, 1:33 am

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It might not last.

it could use a graphic designer...or three. she changed it recently and the title is completely gone?
just nitpicking. i'm a fan of canvas textures but too much of one thing is tacky.


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04 Nov 2015, 12:12 pm

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She's even called it Right Planet, and there are people bagging this forum.
It might not last.


There is a difference to bashing a group of people and corrective criticism. I have seen nothing on the forum stating that Wrong Planet is a bad place to be, just merely ways it could be better. I don't see a problem here.



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04 Nov 2015, 12:35 pm

I use both :shrug:



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07 Nov 2015, 3:03 am

If you want wp to become more positive, then make more positive threads and posts.
Make them interesting enough that people want to read and post in them.

I don't find wp that negative, it is ok.
I hate sugary sweet supporty yes people stuff, it makes me want to vomit.
There was a good thread last winter about such things, it was entertaining.
I think one of the people posting in that thread got banned soon after.

If you want people to know wp is a support site, then please put such information on top of each forum page or each thread page. I don't know that wp is support site, I thought it was discussion site or online autism community, and neither of those mean that I have to support anyone or anyone's ideas here.

People who get hurt feelings from other people not supporting them or their ideas or disagreeing with them should learn to deal with their feelings instead of trying to make others stfu. It is useful to deal with such feelings instead of going around covering one's sensory organs or trying to make others stfu, that doesn't work well.


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07 Nov 2015, 1:49 pm

I think people have different ideas about what "support" means. Some people think it means agreeing with whatever someone else posts. I don't think that's supportive. I think supportive means you speak honestly and try to offer good advice.
I also don't understand what it means to be supportive in forums like News and Current Events or PPR. Surely those boards are for discussing topics? :?



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07 Nov 2015, 5:38 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
Aprilviolets wrote:
It might not last.

it could use a graphic designer...or three. she changed it recently and the title is completely gone?
just nitpicking. i'm a fan of canvas textures but too much of one thing is tacky.


I added a logo, OOM made me an administrator on the site and a moderator. I also changed a few things theme related, I changed the way the users information is shown to the left of the post while another moderator changed the layout a bit. Try going there now.



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07 Nov 2015, 6:13 pm

made a great difference, nice work :idea:


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08 Nov 2015, 11:17 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
made a great difference, nice work :idea:


Hey can I PM you?

If not can a moderator with experience PM me about conflict resolution and how to be tactful in bad situations? I had to lock a thread and ban a user on Right Planet and I am simply not an experienced moderator, I want to know if I handle the situation well. Making matter worse is I think the only other moderator of the site has left cause his feelings were understandably hurt. I am not proud to have locked the thread and to ban a user but it seemed inevitable, I am conflicted. Is this normal for a moderator to feel this way? Should I leave the site as well?



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09 Nov 2015, 8:16 am

dcj123 wrote:
Kiprobalhato wrote:
made a great difference, nice work :idea:


Hey can I PM you?

If not can a moderator with experience PM me about conflict resolution and how to be tactful in bad situations? I had to lock a thread and ban a user on Right Planet and I am simply not an experienced moderator, I want to know if I handle the situation well. Making matter worse is I think the only other moderator of the site has left cause his feelings were understandably hurt. I am not proud to have locked the thread and to ban a user but it seemed inevitable, I am conflicted. Is this normal for a moderator to feel this way? Should I leave the site as well?

You are only asking moderators, but here is what I think anyway.

I think if you are uneasy maybe you could create a procedure and put it into the rules for how to politely object. There was a thread that was locked here, and I got very upset because I had wanted to say something and couldn't. The moderators were very understanding when I PMed them asking to be able to have a voice. They unlocked the thread for me and I felt better and not so all mixed up and confused and overwhelmed. Because they listened and let me have a voice even though there were things going on maybe I misunderstood and missed, but they let me have a voice. You probably want to give people their chance to have a voice too, and I am imagining that is what worries you maybe.

I think giving people a way to be heard is more important than always giving what they want. You could also have a procedure you create (if you don't have one already of course) for appealing a ban or w lock. Maybe that's a waste of time, but if you feel it is, then probably you don't need to second guess yourself about what you are doing.

I don't like saying no to people IRL. I'm sure it's no more fun on the Internet. And sometimes they get angry. I said no to something recently and people are acting all weird and trying to pretend I'm not there. It's awful.

I think you have to do what seems best to you and not base what you do on other people's negative reactions. Be open and listen if you want and you can always decide to change your mind if there is persuasive reason to. But people getting hurt or angry does not make you wrong. You could be, but you are doing your best, if there are facts that you weren't aware of that should be weighed into decisions, it is the responsibility of the person affected to communicate with you, I do not think you can alway make all people happy.

Is this the first time you've had to go against what someone wanted there? If so, I imagine it might get much easier with a little experience. And, if it doesn't, you can always leave. But a moderator who cares about doing the right thing seems to me invaluable.



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09 Nov 2015, 7:12 pm

Irony:

OOM leaves WP because she doesn't like the moderators.

The people OOM appoints as moderators ask WP moderators how to be good moderators.

:mrgreen:


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09 Nov 2015, 7:34 pm

XFilesGeek wrote:
Irony:

OOM leaves WP because she doesn't like the moderators.

The people OOM appoints as moderators ask WP moderators how to be good moderators.

:mrgreen:


touché

I am talking with Kiprobalhato and he is helpful so far.



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09 Nov 2015, 7:45 pm

dcj123 wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
Irony:

OOM leaves WP because she doesn't like the moderators.

The people OOM appoints as moderators ask WP moderators how to be good moderators.

:mrgreen:


touché

I am talking with Kiprobalhato and he is helpful so far.


In all seriousness, best of luck with your new position and new forum.

It can be pretty brutal at times, but if you believe in the community, it's all worth it.


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10 Nov 2015, 12:16 am

A man who calls women "f*cking whores" and "b*tches" and says he hopes they get raped probably shouldn't be a mod anywhere.
Wouldn't you say, dcj123?



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10 Nov 2015, 12:18 am

YippySkippy wrote:
A man who calls women "f*cking whores" and "b*tches" and says he hopes they get raped probably shouldn't be a mod anywhere.
Wouldn't you say, dcj123?


It was unmoderated so why not, if they want troll than lets troll.

Besides I think Bimog is male.



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10 Nov 2015, 12:42 am

Why not? Because there are some things that are so vulgar and offensive they should never be said, and no reasonable person would dream of saying them.
I wouldn't want to meet you in a dark alley, lets put it that way. Anyone who tells someone they hope they get raped is not a safe person.



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30 Nov 2015, 4:57 pm

The few times that I visited The Haven, I was emotionally overwhelmed by the pain and fear and loneliness.

Some members are at the end of their ropes and need compassion and understanding.

If a comment COULD have hurt someone who was already in a bad way, notwithstanding it may not have been meant as mean, the mods have no choice but to clarify that The Haven is just that, and that people must be treated with kindness; that is why they/we go there, for emotional support.

I do wish that OOM could have worked this out in a correspondence with the mods.


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