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Collective responsibility is required my friend. Old timers have probably learned how to "beat the system" and mods want to interfere as little as possible and rightly so

Last edited by Teach51 on 31 Jul 2020, 1:45 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Why would I be stirring things up ?

'beat the system' - Is that the same as committing a crime and getting away with it ?

Why did you mention 'aspies' and 'self restraint' when this forum is open to all ?

How do you know what the mods other jobs are ?

Sure, it's not that hard, but what does using such loopholes say about someone's character if or when it's used to attack others? Newer members learn how to do it too btw.

Offtopic:

Alex_2x4: Interesting signature, does it have philosophical or political meaning?

My friend who grew up in one of the Eastern Block countries told me somebody went to jail for writing a poem about "putting a turd on the doorknob" - apparently, everybody understood the metaphor.

Yours is a bit more obscure

This.

Bullying can't take place in an environment filled with love and respect for others.

You don't have to like others, you don't have to like their opinions, it doesn't mean you can't get p*ssed off. You don't have to love them as in romantic or friendship love.

You just love someone as another human being because they are another human being and extend respect to them regardless of religion, race, creed, gender identity, etc., etc.

My perspective is gained from meeting lots and lots of people over some 40 years of working as a hospice nurse and as a case manager for people with developmental disabilities. I work in their homes and with entire families. I think this is a much broader perspective and I consider myself blessed to have all these experiences.

When I started out, I thought I knew everything. The more experience I had with different types of people, different styles of communication, different cultures, different expectations, the more I had to broaden my ideas and expand my understanding if I were going to be able to serve people well. I became much more humble and much more willing to meet people where they are, instead of where I think they should be.

Obviously I am human. I still make these same errors. We all make errors.

Let's treat each other with love and respect...and someone said in another thread, with tenderness.

I come in peace. This thread is for finding a solution not perpetuating the problem

Correction: all members should exercise self-restraint, my fingers have been duly slapped.

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Is going offtopic frowned upon ? I may have inadvertently broken that rule.

I suppose it does have a philosophical meaning about how the young get indoctrinated but I'm actually quoting Skin.

I'd get rid of the PPR section as that's where most of the trouble generates from. But I don't think that is up to a mod to actually take out a forum.

Otherwise, I don't have a problem with how the mods run this site. They've always solved my problems I've had here, although last year when I was being personally attacked and accused of being mean and ignorant which not only hurt my feelings but also humiliated me on WP, and I spoke to a mod about it and they just passed it off as the user having a meltdown. I know this is an autism site, but I still don't think that a meltdown is an excuse to get away with hurling insults at innocent people out of the blue.

Bizzare. Are you insinuating that I am perpetuating the problem ?

You are the one who questioned my reasons for posting then assigned vulnerable members here as nursery kids.

You have a funny definition of peace.

In theory yes, in practice it happens all the time.

Since the poem I mentioned was about collective responsibility for a bad situation that affects everybody, maybe it wasn't as offtopic as I though.

Maybe WP would be a better place if people would consider how their actions and words affect those around them before they lash out or get caught in petty squabbles.

Not referring to you at all. I apologise if I gave that impression.

Please, do not counter-bully. It can turn any conversation into a toxic fight.
If you believe you are bullied by another member, start with something like "leave me alone" and, if you believe it's serious, let the mods know.
If you believe someone else is bullied by another user, start with something like "leave <member> alone" and, if you believe it's serious, let the mods know.

Me?

This is very good in theory but doesn't seem to work very well here sometimes. I can defend myself so I don't have this issue, but I stood up for others in the past and it didn't stop anybody from hurling insults. When the mods are not around or for various reasons don't intervene, what is the target supposed to do? Because if they answer in kind, they are the ones usually getting warned or banned, regardless of the provocation

And some people are in a vulnerable state or don't have the means to defend themselves within the rules, should they just put up with it? I'm asking you because I know you also stood up for others in the past.

I've been accused of bullying twice in 8 years. I clarified my position and where I was coming from and it was generally well-received. I never escalate. If it happens that I have a bad day and get snippy, I'm open about it and apologise if someone gets upset, which makes me believe that it still boils down to individual responsibility.

Please explain where bullying and counter-bullying occurred I'm perplexed ( probably how Fnord feels )

Stick around WP for another 2,000 posts and you will see it.Counter bullying is when people fight back after being attacked,you see it here often enough.