How we deal with racism and hate speech on Wrong Planet

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Calling someone a racist is absolutely akin to calling somebody something like a dirty liberal or a fascist conservative.

The rule against personal attacks should be applied to the word “racist.”

I’m just corroborating what others saying.

Saying a certain idea is racist should be acceptable...but calling someone a racist directly should be considered a personal insult under WP rules.

Let me tell you something.....there are times when the PC brigade goes down to the level of Trump. Paradoxically, this gives Trump credibility. People must seek to keep themselves above the present-day political dialogue.

If people continue to wrestle in the mud, this country is going to really suffer. And that goes for both liberals and conservatives.

What the f**k! You are living in cloud cuckoo land mate. Are you alright , are you having a meltdown or something , are you having mental health issues , I appreciate it's hard for people in showbiz at the moment and even harder if you are falsely accused of racism (i.e you will not get work ) .

Words like racist , pedophile , rapist , murderer can destroy peoples lives if they are falsely accused of it.

These words cannot be bandied around lightly.

I'm am not happy that you believe you are judge and jury on this matter ( your site , your definitions ) .

What else are you planning to redefine in the future to let toxic behaviour continue

My new avatar is an anti- trump logo as you believe all people who vote for Trump are white supremacist , but if you think I'm a racist for using it , you better ban me.

Taunt ye not the Dragons, for thou art crunchy and go well with catsup.

I've always had a problem with authority when they are talking madness

Calling it 'madness' will not help your case.

false accusations using my definitions are apparently ok

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I really don't know what I'm fighting for anymore tbh this place has really done a number on me and I have far more pressing issues IRL that I am trying to ignore .

^This.

I've said so several times too: that it's OK to call out racism but not call a specific person "racist" - if you do, you'd better have proof it's true or it's a personal attack or defamation.

Kraftie, Blazingstar, Temeraire,, Flea of the Chill and a number of others have contributed value to this thread.

I know I said I would help you Enviroz and you have been doing solid work despite you bandwidth issues.

I can no longer be a useful member of this forum with some of the madness that has been spouted.

Maybe I'm just triggered as I have been falsely accused of a lot ( especially as a mod , I know this is part of the job )

Hug!
Go rob some spoon store (not literally...) or something, you deserve it!
Thanks for asking all the uncomfortable questions!

I have been heartened by the responses so far. It makes me believe that even if calling someone a racist is allowed there will not be a significant increase in members calling other members racist and that will definitely be an important factor in my decision.

Alex:
I now understand that you understand calling someone a racist is often an unproductive method. While a persons past experiences and their autism are taken into account certain wording is considered a personal attack and dealt with for the betterment of the group. If the current trend of these reactions to the policy continues you should try and understand allowing members to call each other racist will be divisive because many members will
believe it to be a serious accusation.

League Girl
I still disagree with you. I still believe the concept of “white privilege” is a racist concept. I do not believe YOU are racist, I believe you are anti racist.

This raises a larger important point one, or two, three racist statements or actions should not define a person as racist. A few autistic traits does not make one autistic. If you have once or twice stolen towels or soap from a hotel while you have engaged in criminal activity you should not be defined as a crook.

Drake
I thank you for your compliments.

Magz, Now I have the picture in my mind of a store where you can go into and there's an array of delicious ice cream, cheesecakes and other delights as well as a selection of spoons and you get to sample each item from the range with a spoon. Thanks for that!

Thank you ASP, the likelihood is that we've been discussing something that hopefully won't need to happen - and if so, very seldom. most members might have slightly different approaches and suggestions, but all are united with the goal of improving things on WP and expressing this the best way they can.

"Attack the idea, not the person" : : "Hate the sin, not the sinner".

^Absolutely.

I must say the blue shirt on your chosen new avatar is very calming to look at. It was another use who stated she felt uneasy with the face staring straight at her - it wasn't about the red shirt; that was a joke I brought in later.

Thanks.  Someone pointed out that, for some people, a red shirt screams "NAZI!!", and I do not want any part of that.