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BlackjackGabbiani
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18 Dec 2008, 7:41 pm

sinsboldly wrote:

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It seems to be the belief here that there are only two options, either "sit down and take it" or "leave". I'm trying to work on a third option, "remain but ask questions".

Where do you get the impression I want the rules changed just for me? I'm saying that for ANYONE, to keep them as such is illogical.

and you, BlackjackGabbiani, I see the meaning of the word 'troll' as: Posting derogatory messages about sensitive subjects on newsgroups and chat rooms to bait users into responding.

Is this your intention?

Merle

How was anything I've ever said on this board "derogatory" or "about sensitive subjects" or "baiting"? I see absolutely nothing of the sort.

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18 Dec 2008, 11:47 pm

Someone send me that PM, I'm interested. >.>

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19 Dec 2008, 2:16 am

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

sinsboldly wrote:

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

How was anything I've ever said on this board "derogatory" or "about sensitive subjects" or "baiting"? I see absolutely nothing of the sort.

the answer is either "yes" this is my intention, or "no" this is not my intention.

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19 Dec 2008, 5:22 am

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

It's illogical to expect us to select words other than what we would use in real life.

Perhaps you need to learn to be a little less foul-mouthed and profanity-dependent in real life.

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19 Dec 2008, 6:28 am

Fnord wrote:

I am a writer - a published writer - and I see profane language as the final refuge of the uncreative mind, such as those comedians and rappers who string a series of epithets together and call it "humor" or "art."

great, try to be coherent sometimes

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20 Dec 2008, 3:35 am

Greyhound wrote:

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

It's illogical to expect us to select words other than what we would use in real life.

Perhaps you need to learn to be a little less foul-mouthed and profanity-dependent in real life.

You act as though it's every other word out of my mouth. When something is appropiate to the situation, it ought to be able to be spoken.

When Bono said "fking brilliant" after winning a major award, would you consider him to be "foul-mouthed and profanity-dependent"?

Oh yeah, and I'm a published writer too, Fnord. Do you have no respect for the full functionality of language?

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20 Dec 2008, 5:52 am

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

Greyhound wrote:

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

It's illogical to expect us to select words other than what we would use in real life.

Perhaps you need to learn to be a little less foul-mouthed and profanity-dependent in real life.

He's not 'profanity-dependent' just because he said that, but if he had insisted that there was no other word that could convey his feelings, then that would be silly because the real meaning of f***ing is 'having sex' or 'having sex with' and a better word could surely be found.

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20 Dec 2008, 7:08 pm

That depends on how it's being used. It's developed MANY meanings, and I should think people would be well aware of that by now.

I notice none of my other points are being addressed, such as why we're apparently not allowed to ask why locked threads are locked...

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20 Dec 2008, 7:15 pm

If you'd like to discuss the rules with Alex, you can reach him by clicking "Contact Us" on the home page.

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20 Dec 2008, 7:41 pm

Forgive me, I thought this subforum had the explicit purpose of discussing the site, including the rules.

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20 Dec 2008, 8:45 pm

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

Forgive me, I thought this subforum had the explicit purpose of discussing the site, including the rules.

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Have a question about the site? Found a bug? Have any suggestions? Post your issues, questions, and ideas in this forum.

You have discussed the rules. You have received replies explaining why we like them as they are.

It seems that you find them unacceptable.

You have already found yourself apparently incapable of following them. E.g. you have tried sneaking swearwords past the filter. Leaving out letters is a pretty feeble trick.

I suggest you leave the site, as that will save us the trouble of banning you, when you further break the rules, which seems likely, at present.

Of course, the alternative is for you to accept the rules as they stand. They work, for this site. Maybe you could come to understand that, if you spent some time here.

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20 Dec 2008, 9:42 pm

^ You are so much more eloquent than I.

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20 Dec 2008, 10:45 pm

ShadesOfMe wrote:

Once again you prove that it is you who needs to "get over yourself" I'm tired of seeing posts from you where you act like you are better than other people, and animals. Your tone in general is snarky, rude, arrogant and sarcastic. I'm really sick of it. Being in the Navy, as you state above, really doesn't make you better than anyone. It's seriously about time you learn that you aren't better than everyone. And obviously the only thing you will think to do is, make a reply to this post, once again proving how full of yourself you are. I'm honestly sick of you, stop trying to make other people feel less then they are. People like you are actually the lesser person.

I believe some women seem to find that attractive from a man, and the other way around (male/female). To each his/her own.

Fnord wrote:

Alright Merle, thanks for your help!

I was trying to demonstrate how effective non-profane language is at getting the same message across as profane language.

Yes, you have demonstrated how to do some damage without swearing.

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I'll be good.

Good.

Alex wrote:

The following activities are unacceptable on WrongPlanet:
2. Personal attacks.
This includes insinuation, ridicule and personal insults, regardless of whether direct or indirect. Attacking an opinion, belief or philosophy is acceptable, but attacking the person making the comments is not.

Is ridicule included? and how that works? Also, how can we tell something is indirect?

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

It seems to be the belief here that there are only two options, either "sit down and take it" or "leave".

Well, yes, this isn't a democracy, it is a dictatorship.

CanyonWind wrote:

"If somebody owns a business, and they want to serve only people with red hair and green eyes, that's their right."

What's wrong with that?

The thing is that a private website is not subjected to same laws as in the real world, I mean, you cannot legally claim discrimination because a member is banned, even if that was the case, there are no courts, no trials and no lawyers in this "community", although I read MrMark saying you can appeal a decision with another mod. We could say however, that some of the reasons might be 'political' as any organization would I suppose.

sinsboldly wrote:

well, now, Canyon Wind, are you really going to open the door to pasting lables on you, too?

I don't see what's wrong with that, it's quite interesting.

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21 Dec 2008, 7:41 am

greenblue wrote:

...

Alex wrote:

Is ridicule included? and how that works? Also, how can we tell something is indirect?
...

To take your three(?) sentences in turn:

greenblue wrote:

Is ridicule included?

Yes. It is there, written in the rule you quoted. I'm surprised you didn't see it.

greenblue wrote:

and how that works?

Rather like I have broken the rule, as above, by ridiculing your failure to read what you quoted, or maybe here, when I now draw attention to your bad grammar. (I note that your initial lower case here is NOT incorrect. Most people assume that a question mark (or exclamation mark) is invariably a sentence terminator, but that it is not the case. However, your sentence fragment then fails to make it clear what its "that" is referring to, and further, it is unclear what "works" might mean in this context, although strictly speaking, this would now be bad semantics. In any case, the fragment fails to convey a clear meaning, which is essentially the point behind following good grammatical practice.)

greenblue wrote:

Also, how can we tell something is indirect?

It is indirect when it is not direct. As I could do here, should I opine that G.W.Bush is an idiot (size 10?) and you are just like him.

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I will now write myself a sniffy PM, telling me to stop posting this drivel.

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21 Dec 2008, 10:30 am

It is not ridicule to draw attention to one's mistakes in a corrective manner.

It is ridicule to draw attention to one's mistakes if "... a child could have done better" (Quotes used to illustrate what is only an example of ridicule).

Thus, it would not be ridicule to point out when someone is using all caps in their postings, and to ask them to "please refrain." But it would be ridicule to intentionally embarrass or shame the person into complying with common practice (i.e., "Is that how they talk in your end of the trailer park?").

Then again, there is a lot to be said in favor of developing a "thick skin."

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21 Dec 2008, 10:51 am

BlackjackGabbiani wrote:

I notice none of my other points are being addressed, such as why we're apparently not allowed to ask why locked threads are locked...

Do you think that you are owed an explanation for this?

On the site that you work for, how would you handle someone, who had been a member for less than two weeks, demanding an explanation for every rule he didn't agree with?

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