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18 Aug 2020, 3:06 pm

Isabellalinton should be made a mod.


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18 Aug 2020, 3:25 pm

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Isabellalinton should be made a mod.
I would second that,but does she want to put in the time on this site?


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18 Aug 2020, 3:37 pm

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PLease tell me this fox is supposed to be clapping. Because the more I look, the less it looks like it...

I thought it was clapping


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18 Aug 2020, 4:58 pm

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... Fnord knows he mistreats people...
Wrong.  I know a few people claim that I have mis-treated others.
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... and he knows it's wrong...
I know that mis-treatment is wrong, but mis-treatment was never my intent.
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... and is proud of it.
This is either a fantasy or an outright lie -- no one can read my mind.  Either way, this is what I meant when I said to check your own behavior before you check mine.  The charges levied against me are of a few isolated cases, the gaps between which have been filled with presumptions and prevarications regarding my intentions and motivations, as if people were on a campaign to have me banned.


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18 Aug 2020, 6:30 pm

vermontsavant wrote:
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... you Fnord, don't treat people well, and if that's not against the rules, it should be!
If not treating people well was a bannable offense according to The Rules, there would be only a few members left on this website.

Check your behavior before you check mine.
Believe what you wanna believe dude,you know the truth and you know your wrong :mrgreen:


Sometimes facts as they appear can feel quite brusk in their appearances .
Not quite sure what you are trying to say in relation to my words that you quoted.I was just saying Fnord knows he mistreats people and he knows it's wrong and is proud of it.Would that be a truth quite brusk in appearances :)


just expressing my perceptions of persons in question ...... not willing to engage in any further discussion on other members just now.


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18 Aug 2020, 7:05 pm

Since there is no singular, absolute definition of human nature, nor any ultimate evaluation of human nature beyond that which we project onto others, individuals may only be judged or defined by their actions and choices, and not by what we imagine their intentions and motivations to be.



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18 Aug 2020, 7:10 pm

I happen to believe known good intentions should be praised.....or at least those with good intentions should be treated less harshly than those with known bad intentions.



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18 Aug 2020, 7:17 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I happen to believe known good intentions should be praised.....or at least those with good intentions should be treated less harshly than those with known bad intentions.


'Presume good intent' is an insight Dr Tony Attwood (and John Elder Robison) shared in how to approach most matters..interactions...

for those who have people with autism in their lives (but dont have ASD themselves).

Seems it goes both ways.

Thank you for your (what I believe to be) spiritually elevated views. Not necessarily here only I mean in general


. V grateful for all the various types of personalities here ....

Sometimes a remark on WP is so beneficial in a way I needed (in life off the internet)


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18 Aug 2020, 7:17 pm

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I happen to believe known good intentions should be praised.....or at least those with good intentions should be treated less harshly than those with known bad intentions.
So ... should Rev. Jim Jones be praised for his "good intentions" of saving his followers at Jonestown from secular influences, even though he ordered them all to commit suicide, and had people murdered when they refused?


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18 Aug 2020, 7:20 pm

Fnord wrote:
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I happen to believe known good intentions should be praised.....or at least those with good intentions should be treated less harshly than those with known bad intentions.
So ... should Rev. Jim Jones be praised for his "good intentions" of saving his followers at Jonestown from secular influences, even though he ordered them all to commit suicide, and had people murdered when they refused?


He didn't have good intent. Ive read deeply about this inc first hand accounts from survivord or those who brushed with it but got out in time.

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He was 100% aware he was doing evil. And enjoyed it. Many examples can be giveb.

I believe such ppl concoct delusions of doing good after the already wrong intent in place in order to be able to live with themselves day to day.


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18 Aug 2020, 7:33 pm

Should we praise parents whose stated intent is to provide the best possible education for their children, even though they may have bribed, coerced, and even blackmailed university admissions officers to do so?

Should we praise the mothers who want to protect their children from the awful state of the World, even though those mothers may bludgeon, choke, drown, shoot, and stab their children to do so?

Should we praise the fathers who only want to spend more time with their children when those fathers kidnap their children and take them far away from their mothers?

Should we praise congregations for their faith in G^D when they rely so much upon Him to heal cancers, viral infections, and other treatable conditions that many of them and their loved ones die from lack of medical treatment?

It seems naive to claim that any one of these "praise-worthy" people should be given a "Get Out Of Jail Free" card just because we imagine they have good intentions -- it is the other side of the same coin when we condemn someone because we imagine that they have bad intentions.


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18 Aug 2020, 7:35 pm

blooiejagwa wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I happen to believe known good intentions should be praised.....or at least those with good intentions should be treated less harshly than those with known bad intentions.


'Presume good intent' is an insight Dr Tony Attwood (and John Elder Robison) shared in how to approach most matters..interactions...



Which is great advice 99% of the time but it leaves many on the spectrum open to abuse if you don't have a healthy dose of reality. It is very rare that the 1% join WP but they can and do. ( I don't believe anyone like that is currently on the site )


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18 Aug 2020, 7:40 pm

I feel like we should take each case individually.

But, in general and in most cases, what I said applies.



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18 Aug 2020, 7:40 pm

Fnord wrote:
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blooiejagwa wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
I happen to believe known good intentions should be praised.....or at least those with good intentions should be treated less harshly than those with known bad intentions.
'Presume good intent' is an insight Dr Tony Attwood (and John Elder Robison) shared in how to approach most matters... interactions...
Which is great advice 99% of the time but it leaves many on the spectrum open to abuse if you don't have a healthy dose of reality. It is very rare that the 1% join WP but they can and do. ( I don't believe anyone like that is currently on the site )
It seems fair to say that it is likely neither Attwood, Robison, nor even Blooie have ever been sexually molested by someone within whom they presumed good intent when he offered them free candy...


sorry to hear that but i was talking in relation to WP specifically.. if there was a discussion in preceding pages regarding this, have not seen this.


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18 Aug 2020, 7:41 pm

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I feel like we should take each case individually.  But, in general and in most cases, what I said applies.
Is it safe to assume that you have lived a very sheltered life?


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18 Aug 2020, 7:43 pm

Your assumption is wrong.

What are your intentions in saying this?