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24 Dec 2014, 1:52 am

I read the rules, and is the swearing ban for real?
It's not a surprise to see such a rule on forums run by irrational NTs, but I am surprised to see it on an ASD forum.
If it really is banned, then I could get banned for posting excerpts from 'Look Me in the Eye'.


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31 Dec 2014, 8:51 pm

It's about context. A blanket ban on swearing means the mods can act on people who swear in an inappropriate context, but they won't do so if you use swear words sensibly.



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31 Dec 2014, 9:05 pm

What the !@#$%*(O) you're talking about?


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31 Dec 2014, 10:17 pm

The_Walrus wrote:
It's about context. A blanket ban on swearing means the mods can act on people who swear in an inappropriate context, but they won't do so if you use swear words sensibly.


This sounds neurotypical


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31 Dec 2014, 11:34 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
This sounds neurotypical


Is that a problem?


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01 Jan 2015, 1:51 am

ralphd wrote:
...then I could get banned for posting excerpts from 'Look Me in the Eye'.


no you wouldn't.

like Walrus said, it's all about context - that ^ would be a perfectly fine time/context for swearing to be used in your post.

if you go around cussing others out and having the third word of every post you make auto-censored, then it's a problem .


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01 Jan 2015, 3:02 am

Dox47 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
This sounds neurotypical


Is that a problem?


If people don't understand it is.


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01 Jan 2015, 12:44 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Dox47 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
This sounds neurotypical
Is that a problem?
If people don't understand it is.
This makes no sense. How can something you read "sound" like anything? Do your comprehension of the printed word require you to read it out loud to yourself? Does someone else have to read it for you? Please explain.


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01 Jan 2015, 1:24 pm

I believe he means "seems," not literally "sounds."



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01 Jan 2015, 1:33 pm

Don't shatter my cocoon of fragile innocence with such corruption. :pale:

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01 Jan 2015, 2:10 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
It's about context. A blanket ban on swearing means the mods can act on people who swear in an inappropriate context, but they won't do so if you use swear words sensibly.


This sounds neurotypical


Or maybe it's just to keep the website reasonably civil and family-friendly, since children and parents come here, too, along with people who are in a bad state of mind and might be sensitive to aggression (like a long string of explicit profanity directed at them).

I hope that's not too neurotypical a concept.



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01 Jan 2015, 2:23 pm

Kiprobalhato wrote:
ralphd wrote:
...then I could get banned for posting excerpts from 'Look Me in the Eye'.


no you wouldn't.

like Walrus said, it's all about context - that ^ would be a perfectly fine time/context for swearing to be used in your post.

if you go around cussing others out and having the third word of every post you make auto-censored, then it's a problem .


And who's definition of swearing are we using? In Canada (where I'm from) and most of Europe, BS is not swearing. I've even heard a member of the CRTC (Canada's equivalent of the FCC) say "no s**t" in a public hearing.

If the intention is to restrict abusive language, then just say so. Having vague and subjective rules is so NT.

Calling someone a f'ing idiot is not a problem because of the swearing, it's a problem because of the idiot part.
So just ban abusive/hateful speech, and don't bother people if they got all f'd up at a party or if they say they're having problems dealing with their a**hole boss.


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01 Jan 2015, 2:24 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
It's about context. A blanket ban on swearing means the mods can act on people who swear in an inappropriate context, but they won't do so if you use swear words sensibly.


This sounds neurotypical


Agreed. Rules should be clear and predictable.


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01 Jan 2015, 2:34 pm

downbutnotout wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
It's about context. A blanket ban on swearing means the mods can act on people who swear in an inappropriate context, but they won't do so if you use swear words sensibly.


This sounds neurotypical


Or maybe it's just to keep the website reasonably civil and family-friendly, since children and parents come here, too, along with people who are in a bad state of mind and might be sensitive to aggression (like a long string of explicit profanity directed at them).

I hope that's not too neurotypical a concept.


Are you suggesting hearing(or reading) words like f*ck is harmful to children? My oldest child first heard me say it when he was barely one year old when I broke a glass. My children have heard me say it many times when I've stubbed my toe, jammed my finger, etc. It's done them no harm whatsoever.

Are you suggesting that words like f*ck are aggressive?

Go to a mall or a coffee shop and I'm sure you'll hear people using the f-word in a non-aggressive way.


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01 Jan 2015, 2:50 pm

ralphd wrote:
downbutnotout wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
The_Walrus wrote:
It's about context. A blanket ban on swearing means the mods can act on people who swear in an inappropriate context, but they won't do so if you use swear words sensibly.


This sounds neurotypical


Or maybe it's just to keep the website reasonably civil and family-friendly, since children and parents come here, too, along with people who are in a bad state of mind and might be sensitive to aggression (like a long string of explicit profanity directed at them).

I hope that's not too neurotypical a concept.


Are you suggesting hearing(or reading) words like f*ck is harmful to children? My oldest child first heard me say it when he was barely one year old when I broke a glass. My children have heard me say it many times when I've stubbed my toe, jammed my finger, etc. It's done them no harm whatsoever.

Are you suggesting that words like f*ck are aggressive?

Go to a mall or a coffee shop and I'm sure you'll hear people using the f-word in a non-aggressive way.


Yes, I am suggesting that swear words are harmful to children - to an extent. They're considered rude and inappropriate in many contexts, and while they're not going to be physically harmed by hearing them if they pick them up from Wrong Planet there will be consequences. Such as some parents and caretakers not wanting them on this website, and people reacting negatively to them if they're misused.

Just because friends will joke around with friends at the mall does not mean that language can be used everywhere at any time, or that people won't feel that an insult with profanity is more aggressive than one without. I'll counter your example by asking what you think a manager or schoolteacher (maybe a grandmother) would feel if you casually dropped a few f-bombs in conversation with them. If my manager heard me dropping them around clients, I'd be pulled into the office for a talk.

One case is not all cases, and one person's experience is not all people's experiences. One thing Wrong Planet could use is a more open mind.



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01 Jan 2015, 4:26 pm

f**k and other profanities are just not nice words for me to hear. I accept themin certain situation. I use them in certain situations. When it's a constant part of one's discourse, I can't accept it.