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i will rephrase my last question to you then

i did not know it was a meme

can you cite an example of the white supremacy displayed by the member Sly279

Anyone can be racist...


By definition, racism involves the belief that there is a difference between races and that one is better (or worse) than another. The race of the person with the belief and the race they believe is superior (or has certain atributes that differ from another) are immaterial to this.

I'm certain if I dig I will find posts where he is expressing the notion that the concerns of communities impacted by police regularly using excessive force against them are illegitimate because of negative stereotypes cited as facts. No, I will not waste my evening doing this because I have better things to do with my last hour of Civic Holiday before I start another week of ten-hour days in a miserable factory. Persuading you isn't exactly a priority of mine.

sly279 made the point:

His point is valid.

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funeralxempire then responded:



No, that is not a valid definition. It is a definition you made up to justify name calling, which is a stated offense on this website.

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B.Sisko then stepped in and gave a textbook definition for "white supremacy".



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funeralxempire then responded:



It sounds like you are making up your definition on the fly to justify your name calling.

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At this point B.Sisko used a line made famous by Fnord:



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Rather than provide evidence to back up your assertions, funeralxempire response was one of deflection:




So funeralxempire response to B.Sisko when he asked for evidence to back up his interpretation of the definition of white supremacy was to accuse B.Sisko or either being a bully or a gaslighter and also someone who was so stupid or naive to not understand how this board works!

I haven't seen any (he is (was?)) one of the least offensive posters in the News or PPR sections.

The problem is that (it seems to me) if you're not 100% behind BLM (or similar), you get labelled as "white supremecist" there, even if you differ only slightly in the reasoning (should the protest be about people of one race dieing in such a way, or about ANY person, regardless of race), or methods (complaining about the riots/vandalism/looting).

At one point, it was even considered "racist" by a member here to point out that the federal officers only went into Portland (?) because the local police were not defending federal property and would likely leave if the attacks stopped or the local police took over the protection of the property.

Edit to say: i 'quoted' the wrong post so it makes no sense. This was meant to be a response to quote of Sisko saying' i was taught people of color cannot be racist'


In gr 4 in one of my schools in Canada there was a girl called Alanna who was black as was my friend Renee Harty and her friend whose name Ive forgotten..

I wd hang out with these girls , who would give me roles to play as they pretended we were a band oike Josie n the pussycats..


but also would spend recess with Kiran (i split my recess time between them) another girl in my class who was HEAVILY bullied inc being pelted with sticks pinecones n rocks during recess by Alanna and her friends.

Anyway it inc.racist slurs (Kirans bullies)
Once when these b!tches who made Kirans life in and out of the xlassroom hell. Never EVER got told off. 3 white blond blue eyed and 1 brown haired white girl and 1 black girl.

Anyway once a lot of kids not in their clique (which included other kids, boys. Who wd also lie and bully kiran and I if I happened to be with her)
saw them doing it (throwing things n xhasing after Kiran and I screaming insults) and reported it to the teacher. Usually reporting to playground monitors was useless as they were immigrant parents volunteering and these b!tches would scream insults at them and run off and the teacher would never tell em off. Ever.

Anyway this time enough kids saw and reported and it was confirmed by playground monitors--they all reported them that the teacher (who regularly saw their bullying in and out of class) had to come these girls were in actual trouble and favouritism couldnt get them out for once..
They concocted a lie that Kiran was yelling racist comments at them (Kiran who barely knew English!! ) and they were just retaliating.

Thank God my 'mutism' didnt kick in (it never does when im enraged on someone else's behalf) and I stated they do it every recess at least 1 time per recess and we never speak to them etc and Kiran doesn't know English to even say what these creatures said she had.

But yeah. She was of colour and a racist little monster.

Edit to add their moms encouraged it as one of them Ashley yold me after class (i hadnt spoken to ger she just started saying things her parents had told her to do including 'getting these girls in trouble if you have to' which obviously meabs lying


. The Pixie Club it was called.. created by their moms who - Ashleys mom- made special badges n stuff fr them- anyway parents exist who actually tell their kids, behind closed doors, to target kids in their class. In case ppl didnt know)

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ok i understand

It sounds like you've confused not liking the definition with it being invalid.

Nope. Not confused at all.

O i forgot to add that these bullies when they said (lied) that Kiran had been yelling racist things they were saying that she was saying racist tgings yo Alanna, specifically.
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And they were relying on Kirans consistent 'selective mutism' which included her becoming numb not moving or burstibg into tears but unable to speak.

This was what normally happened with Kiran --
They had gotten away before using such tactics in other situations when caught bullying--

they thought they cd say anything and get away with the blame shifting and gaslighting..


Kiran displayed clear autism more than any other kid in a "normal" class that I've seen..they had not counted on ME speaking up for her.



They tried to drown out my voice too by shouting that I was a 'liar'... First of many tastes of gaslighting in my life. They received no punishment/consequence but a'warning' after which kiran was left free duribg recess though still targeted physically..emotionally.. all other times by these creatures... Struggling to call them children...monsters they were to us but moreso kiran who was so traumatized

If you google 'white supremacy', the definition is as follows:


I wont make any claims to the character of other members, but funeralxempires definition is valid interpretation. It is an expansion of the phrase 'dominate society'.

that is truly repulsive

Past 2 posts of mine were in response to this

The problem is that "placing the interests of whites ahead of others" is often used as another way of saying "disagrees with what I think is best".

The "placing the interests of whites ahead of others" definition of "white supremecy" has been used in the past against posts where it was clearly stated that all races should be treated equally, and is actually a subjective assumption of another members beliefs, rather than an objective summary of what was presented.

That would appear to be a dishonest misinterpretation.




You mean you were reminded that some communities face issues that other communities don't and that ignoring this reality would continue to place some people's interests behind those of others?

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The interpretation of others behavior is another story, I was just discussing the validity of the plain speech definition.