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21 Aug 2020, 1:43 pm

What was the rule, I can't remember?

I always thought that Tallyman's post already made it crystal clear about not getting nasty in there.


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21 Aug 2020, 1:48 pm

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We have words that have more than one meaning or have words that are spelled the same but sound different depending on how it is used like "read" and "bow" and we have words that are spelled different but sound the same like "red" and "read" and "buy" and "by" and "bye" and "hi" and "high."


Words that sound the same but are spelled differently are called homophones. (Homo = Same, Phone = Sound).


I would never say I'm dumping my child anywhere. To me that sounds like a word for garbage, or something that isn't wanted. I would say I'm "dropping her off" at the place. It must be a cultural thing, like you said. That's too bad the lady got upset because I'm sure it wasn't your intention.

One of my pet peeves is when people say "my kid" instead of "my child" or "my son / daughter". It just sounds very harsh to me. "Kids" is OK when it's plural, but somehow "kid" makes my skin crawl. If someone said they were going to dump their kid somewhere, I'd be flummoxed. I guess to an extent we all have our differences. I'm totally fine with the *c* word and with swearing, but some others find that offensive.


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21 Aug 2020, 1:51 pm

BenderRodriguez wrote:
What was the rule, I can't remember?

I always thought that Tallyman's post already made it crystal clear about not getting nasty in there.


I can't remember the exact wording but it was a recap of the rules and something along the lines of 'if an OP asks you not to post in their Haven thread you should respect their wishes" or something like that.

I suggested it in the mod staff room and all mods agreed and Sklip posted it.

This was due to members who were taking out their grievances with the OP in other threads then followed them into the Haven.


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21 Aug 2020, 1:53 pm

BenderRodriguez wrote:
What was the rule, I can't remember?

I always thought that Tallyman's post already made it crystal clear about not getting nasty in there.


I agree. There's not much room for ambiguity about TallyMan's post, especially when Alex already said not to belittle or provoke people, directly or indirectly. I wish everyone could just wipe the slate clean and call a truce and start following the rules or avoiding people who may cause conflict.

That's a good rule Ferris. If anyone is asked to stop any behaviour they certainly should, even if it was unintentional.

Apologies can go a long way when we make mistakes.


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21 Aug 2020, 1:54 pm

^^
It must be cultural I guess because I've never heard the verb to dump used for humans except to mean breaking up with someone :?

I had no idea people make the difference between kid and child - learn something new every day :)


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21 Aug 2020, 1:55 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
BenderRodriguez wrote:
What was the rule, I can't remember?

I always thought that Tallyman's post already made it crystal clear about not getting nasty in there.


I agree. There's not much room for ambiguity about TallyMan's post, especially when Alex already said not to belittle or provoke people, directly or indirectly. I wish everyone could just wipe the slate clean and call a truce and start following the rules or avoiding people who may cause conflict.

That's a good rule Ferris. If anyone is asked to stop any behaviour they certainly should, even if it was unintentional.

Apologies can go a long way when we make mistakes.


Oh, I see, thank you, that does make perfect sense.


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21 Aug 2020, 2:00 pm

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It must be cultural I guess because I've never heard the verb to dump used for humans except to mean breaking up with someone :?


It's not used round my way either , maybe it evolved from dropping the kids off at the pool :twisted:


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21 Aug 2020, 2:01 pm

Oh_no_its_Ferris wrote:
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^^It must be cultural I guess because I've never heard the verb to dump used for humans except to mean breaking up with someone.
It's not used round my way either , maybe it evolved from dropping the kids off at the pool.
Or, "... otters off at the pond".



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21 Aug 2020, 2:02 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
BenderRodriguez wrote:
What was the rule, I can't remember?

I always thought that Tallyman's post already made it crystal clear about not getting nasty in there.


I agree. There's not much room for ambiguity about TallyMan's post, especially when Alex already said not to belittle or provoke people, directly or indirectly. I wish everyone could just wipe the slate clean and call a truce and start following the rules or avoiding people who may cause conflict.

That's a good rule Ferris. If anyone is asked to stop any behaviour they certainly should, even if it was unintentional.

Apologies can go a long way when we make mistakes.


Well the rule seems to have disappeared and is not adhered to anymore so it doesn't matter.


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21 Aug 2020, 2:03 pm

Oh_no_its_Ferris wrote:
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BenderRodriguez wrote:
What was the rule, I can't remember?

I always thought that Tallyman's post already made it crystal clear about not getting nasty in there.


I agree. There's not much room for ambiguity about TallyMan's post, especially when Alex already said not to belittle or provoke people, directly or indirectly. I wish everyone could just wipe the slate clean and call a truce and start following the rules or avoiding people who may cause conflict.

That's a good rule Ferris. If anyone is asked to stop any behaviour they certainly should, even if it was unintentional.

Apologies can go a long way when we make mistakes.


Well the rule seems to have disappeared and is not adhered to anymore so it doesn't matter.


Maybe you could ask her? It could be a system glitch.
Maybe new Admin could reinstate it, if it was accidentally deleted.


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21 Aug 2020, 2:04 pm

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^^It must be cultural I guess because I've never heard the verb to dump used for humans except to mean breaking up with someone.
It's not used round my way either , maybe it evolved from dropping the kids off at the pool.
Or, "... otters off at the pond".


That's a new one for me :lol:


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21 Aug 2020, 2:07 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
Oh_no_its_Ferris wrote:
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BenderRodriguez wrote:
What was the rule, I can't remember?

I always thought that Tallyman's post already made it crystal clear about not getting nasty in there.


I agree. There's not much room for ambiguity about TallyMan's post, especially when Alex already said not to belittle or provoke people, directly or indirectly. I wish everyone could just wipe the slate clean and call a truce and start following the rules or avoiding people who may cause conflict.

That's a good rule Ferris. If anyone is asked to stop any behaviour they certainly should, even if it was unintentional.

Apologies can go a long way when we make mistakes.


Well the rule seems to have disappeared and is not adhered to anymore so it doesn't matter.


Maybe you could ask her? It could be a system glitch.
Maybe new Admin could reinstate it, if it was accidentally deleted.


I thought I sort of did in an indirect way.
I asked Skilp a direct question in another thread but have had no response , she's clearly busy.

It could well be a glitch though.

Plus I haven't really spoken to all the mods since my return there still may be bad blood ? I don't want to force anyone to talk to me.


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21 Aug 2020, 2:11 pm

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The Haven.
The Haven is protected more than any other forum on this site, so if someone is in distress and posts there it is for help and support from other members, not to debate with him/her about their religion or atheism or post anything that could cause further distress.


This one is important too. It's a rule addition made by TallyMan in 2012.

Sadly, comments that were belittling or provocative have been made in The Haven.
They've caused considerable distress for some members.

When members speak up, they're often told that they're too sensitive or they should grow thicker skin, even when it's a direct rule break which should not be allowed. Then the cycle perpetuates, with those members being called "fragile" or "snowflakes", or other dismissive terms which are judgemental and insulting.

It really is baffling that such simple rules can't always be understood.



Probably because of interpretations and what is considered an insult or what is belittling.

I once read a story that astounded me and I think this was a true story. Someone wrote how we needed to be cautious about the B word (bully) when we label students that. One example was there was this 13 year old kid who was going around calling people names and putting them down and he got asked by the teacher "Now what do you think a bully is?" and he said "going around and calling people fa**ots" and that was shocking.

He wasn't going around calling people slur words so he didn't see himself as a bully.

I even had someone tell me online about the word b***h, "is just a word."

To some people, they are just words and have no affect on them. Good for them. So in their mind, there is no insult and it's just a word.

And on Reddit, when I did a comeback when I got insulted by telling someone "you are an idiot if you think you have to insult people to disagree" because they called me an idiot, they seemed shocked and surprised and played the victim and were like "but but but what you said was stupid" as if they thought they were justified. A spade is a spade you know.

The mindset people out there have is mind boggling. Then they are surprised at your comeback or when they get a warning from a mod or something.


When I was a kid, I thought a bully was taking lunch money from kids or teasing someone every day calling them names that are meant to hurt them and it's done with intent. If someone didn't fit the bully description you always see on TV they were not a bully. So I am not surprised if bullies out there do not see themselves as a bully.

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21 Aug 2020, 2:40 pm

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^ for someone who's up at 4:00 AM it sure takes you a while to get going...
It takes me a LOT to get going, no matter what time I get up!
Perhaps a quadruple shot of espresso to start your day.
That's what contributed to my second heart attack.


All recommendations via this site are not to be considered Bonified medical advise . Awe crud please ignore previous suggestion . :oops:


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Jakki wrote:
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Jakki wrote:
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^ for someone who's up at 4:00 AM it sure takes you a while to get going...
It takes me a LOT to get going, no matter what time I get up!
Perhaps a quadruple shot of espresso to start your day.
That's what contributed to my second heart attack.
All recommendations via this site are not to be considered Bona Fide medical advice.  Aww, crud ... please ignore previous suggestion.
No worries.  I'm assuming that your intent was to be helpful.  Am I correct?



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Fnord wrote:
Jakki wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Jakki wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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^ for someone who's up at 4:00 AM it sure takes you a while to get going...
It takes me a LOT to get going, no matter what time I get up!
Perhaps a quadruple shot of espresso to start your day.
That's what contributed to my second heart attack.
All recommendations via this site are not to be considered Bona Fide medical advice.  Aww, crud ... please ignore previous suggestion.
No worries.  I'm assuming that your intent was to be helpful.  Am I correct?

Saw the coffee cup in your picture you present representing your chat name . It was automatic ,
But your asking me about intent , muhahaha ....... ! But actually of course , it was meant to be supportive in Real life. Was / is a coffee drinker in real life .


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