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18 Aug 2020, 11:50 pm

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How come everyone else who have said they'd like to be a mod aren't called out on breaking an unwritten rule and humiliated? I only said I would like to be a mod because I spend a lot of time here, it doesn't mean I'm asking to be a mod. Why do I have to be picked on?


I don't think anyone in this thread is trying to pick on you/humiliate you, you don't need to feel embarrassed :). The other person (Ferris) was jokingly asking to be a mod I believe since Alex showed up.

Should be interesting to see who the new mods are.


Kraftie wasn't joking about being a mod though.

I usually 'get' unwritten rules on social media and forums, but this one I have never heard of. Maybe it's an American thing?


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18 Aug 2020, 11:58 pm

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Kraftie wasn't joking about being a mod though.

I usually 'get' unwritten rules on social media and forums, but this one I have never heard of. Maybe it's an American thing?


That's true about Kraftie. I don't want to speak for Kraftie, but I think his unease isn't about you specifically. More general in relation to the MOD selecting process maybe since it is the hands of a few, just one actually Alex.

I think the idea behind the rule is 'all those that seek power do not deserve it on the internet'. This obviously isn't true for everyone, but I think its meant to weed out ill intentioned folks that would abuse mod power.



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18 Aug 2020, 11:59 pm

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I would like to be a mod because I spend a lot of time here, but I think I will be too sensitive for the job. If members have a go at me or insult me, I will get upset, because I don't have the mental capability to ignore insults. If I'm insulted, it hurts my ego and ruins my whole day.


Ban anyone who gets in your way.
Bwahahahahahahahaha! :twisted:

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Good news, saying you would like to be a mod disqualifies you from ever being a mod. True story. So you have nothing to worry about. :wink:

Just a hidden rule here. I was here long enough to see Alex himself say it.


Reeeeeally? :scratch:

<clears throat>

Pepe would like to be a mod. :mrgreen:

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I would like to be a mod because I spend a lot of time here, but I think I will be too sensitive for the job. If members have a go at me or insult me, I will get upset, because I don't have the mental capability to ignore insults. If I'm insulted, it hurts my ego and ruins my whole day.



Good news, saying you would like to be a mod disqualifies you from ever being a mod. True story. So you have nothing to worry about. :wink:

Just a hidden rule here. I was here long enough to see Alex himself say it.


Not anymore, since all the current candidates volunteered for the position :wink:


EEP! 8O
I take it back. :mrgreen:



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19 Aug 2020, 12:17 am

Joe90 wrote:
How come everyone else who have said they'd like to be a mod aren't called out on breaking an unwritten rule and humiliated? I only said I would like to be a mod because I spend a lot of time here, it doesn't mean I'm asking to be a mod. Why do I have to be picked on?



I was not picking on you. I was making a joke when I told you the good news because you said you wouldn't make a good mod and why.

Now you don't have to ever worry about being recommended as one to Alex. :wink:

Sorry, I have a sense of humor here. It's never my intention to pick on someone when I make a joke.


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19 Aug 2020, 12:23 am

League_Girl wrote:
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How come everyone else who have said they'd like to be a mod aren't called out on breaking an unwritten rule and humiliated? I only said I would like to be a mod because I spend a lot of time here, it doesn't mean I'm asking to be a mod. Why do I have to be picked on?



I was not picking on you. I was making a joke when I told you the good news because you said you wouldn't make a good mod and why.

Now you don't have to ever worry about being recommended as one to Alex. :wink:

Sorry, I have a sense of humor here. It's never my intention to pick on someone when I make a joke.


I'm sorry I misinterpreted. I thought I had made an embarrassing social error by not following some unwritten rule that I was unaware of. A bit like the unwritten rule of liking your own posts on Facebook, or quoting your own quote and replying to yourself on WP.
I think I just misinterpreted how you worded your post, but don't worry, all is forgiven. I think I should read things more carefully before getting all sensitive. :lol:

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I don't want to speak for Kraftie, but I think his unease isn't about you specifically.


I know that.


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19 Aug 2020, 2:54 am

As long as our new moderators continue the current tradition of trying to keep things relatively neutral (at least as far as is possible) in areas like news and PPR, and don't favour one side or the other, this sounds like good news.

And I second Pepe's nomination...Having the site's resident skunk as moderator could work well - people would sense him lurking and be on their best behaviour :)



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19 Aug 2020, 3:12 am

Brictoria wrote:
As long as our new moderators continue the current tradition of trying to keep things relatively neutral (at least as far as is possible) in areas like news and PPR, and don't favour one side or the other, this sounds like good news.

And I second Pepe's nomination...Having the site's resident skunk as moderator could work well - people would sense him lurking and be on their best behaviour :)


I'm not interested in becoming a mod. :eew:
I want to follow in the footsteps of my hero and be a super snitch like Fnord. :heart: :mrgreen:



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19 Aug 2020, 3:22 am

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As long as our new moderators continue the current tradition of trying to keep things relatively neutral (at least as far as is possible) in areas like news and PPR, and don't favour one side or the other, this sounds like good news.

And I second Pepe's nomination...Having the site's resident skunk as moderator could work well - people would sense him lurking and be on their best behaviour :)


I'm not interested in becoming a mod. :eew:
I want to follow in the footsteps of my hero and be a super snitch like Fnord. :heart: :mrgreen:


So...Do we have a "hall monitor" position available for Pepe?



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19 Aug 2020, 3:42 am

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As long as our new moderators continue the current tradition of trying to keep things relatively neutral (at least as far as is possible) in areas like news and PPR, and don't favour one side or the other, this sounds like good news.

And I second Pepe's nomination...Having the site's resident skunk as moderator could work well - people would sense him lurking and be on their best behaviour :)


I'm not interested in becoming a mod. :eew:
I want to follow in the footsteps of my hero and be a super snitch like Fnord. :heart: :mrgreen:


So...Do we have a "hall monitor" position available for Pepe?


I've got my Hall Monitor shield ready. 8)

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19 Aug 2020, 3:48 am

I am glad this long overdue process is underway. I think it is likely that in a year or two WP will be a noticeably better place and a year after that even better as the new mods will have learned how to be a mod. Those WP members still here have shown patience. We just need to show more until things straighten out.


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19 Aug 2020, 4:36 am

There should be a position of “troll-buster” who might or might not be a Mod. I mean in the computer-savvy sense. One who could spot an Internet troll a mile away.

I believe it might be good if Mods we’re voted in by the membership....but the process might cause problems, too,



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19 Aug 2020, 4:54 am

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There should be a position of “troll-buster” who might or might not be a Mod. I mean in the computer-savvy sense. One who could spot an Internet troll a mile away.

I believe it might be good if Mods we’re voted in by the membership....but the process might cause problems, too,


Probably best if they are selected by existing moderators, I would have thought... Less "opportunity" to add weight to the scales in favour of one side or another and more chance that some "impartial" (as much as possible) judgements on potential applicants based on past\present actions\behaviour would take place - A moderator SHOULD be neutral in any conflict, not seen by either party as having an obvious bias against them.



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19 Aug 2020, 5:04 am

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There should be a position of “troll-buster” who might or might not be a Mod. I mean in the computer-savvy sense. One who could spot an Internet troll a mile away.

I believe it might be good if Mods we’re voted in by the membership....but the process might cause problems, too,


They would need mod tools to verify suspicions or at least a mod that can be bothered to use them. People making valid reports about sock-puppets have been ignored or even accused of being "paranoid" in the past so they stopped doing it.


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19 Aug 2020, 5:08 am

Hmm..moderator deputies...


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19 Aug 2020, 5:28 am

Brictoria wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
There should be a position of “troll-buster” who might or might not be a Mod. I mean in the computer-savvy sense. One who could spot an Internet troll a mile away.

I believe it might be good if Mods we’re voted in by the membership....but the process might cause problems, too,


Probably best if they are selected by existing moderators, I would have thought... Less "opportunity" to add weight to the scales in favour of one side or another and more chance that some "impartial" (as much as possible) judgements on potential applicants based on past\present actions\behaviour would take place - A moderator SHOULD be neutral in any conflict, not seen by either party as having an obvious bias against them.


There aren't any conservative mods, atm.
The left-wing bias is one of the major problems here.
And we need more maturity, but I think the die has already been cast.



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19 Aug 2020, 5:41 am

Pepe wrote:
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kraftiekortie wrote:
There should be a position of “troll-buster” who might or might not be a Mod. I mean in the computer-savvy sense. One who could spot an Internet troll a mile away.

I believe it might be good if Mods we’re voted in by the membership....but the process might cause problems, too,


Probably best if they are selected by existing moderators, I would have thought... Less "opportunity" to add weight to the scales in favour of one side or another and more chance that some "impartial" (as much as possible) judgements on potential applicants based on past\present actions\behaviour would take place - A moderator SHOULD be neutral in any conflict, not seen by either party as having an obvious bias against them.


There aren't any conservative mods, atm.
The left-wing bias is one of the major problems here.
And we need more maturity, but I think the die has already been cast.


Bias isn't an issue if the person with it can recognise their natural bias and account for it in their decision making. It is an issue when the person with it is unaware (or worse still, while being aware of it, ignores it) and allows it to affect their judgement, though, and I have come across moderators in the past like that...It never ended well for the site involved.