Why do so many threads go off topic?

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16 Sep 2020, 6:15 am

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Even a regular user can attempt to put the conversation back on track, simply by starting with "Back to the OP..."

People do that on the model railway sites I am on when I go off on tangents. They are kind.


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16 Sep 2020, 6:26 am

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This annoys me too. One time I started a thread and a member stated that they liked another member's avatar and then the whole thread turned into a discussion about the avatar, which was completely unrelated to my thread.

In some forums I've been to it is actually against the rules to go off-topic. But WP doesn't seem to have this rule, as well as not having the no necroposting rule.


It is called getting to know people.
Especially new ones.
I do use spoilers a lot so people can simply skip past. 8)

Also, aspies are known for going off on a tangent. ;)

Perhaps people should PM me, or other's more if they have a problem? 8O :wink:



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16 Sep 2020, 6:45 am

Mountain Goat wrote:
magz wrote:
Even a regular user can attempt to put the conversation back on track, simply by starting with "Back to the OP..."

People do that on the model railway sites I am on when I go off on tangents. They are kind.



We all benefit from kindness and tolerance. Some people have the urgent need for order in a thread, others like a more personal, intimate connection through humour or lightheartedness, There should be room for expression for all . I find it hard to stay on track with my ADD. We can include everyone and their needs. I love MG's posts and it doesn't bother me when he goes off track and I know that this is MG's way and I love him. Often we get to know each other better when someone shows a lighter side to their nature. Maybe it's good to get used to interacting with people who have different characters and preferences and we can develop a little tolerance, accommodate each other's different mind sets. I try and teach my autistic students to live with diverse thinking and loosen up a bit with their rigid adherence to rules for their own benefit. There is nothing wrong with rules but realizing others don't have to or don't want to do things the same way can ease the stress that is generated and accepting that others have a lighter approach to the order of things.
I agree with magz, it's probably best to say, "getting back to the OP," let it go,and make room for different personalities within reason. That is actually what "socialization" is all about. Isn't that the whole point of being here, to socialize? If I want information devoid of personality then I can use Google.


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16 Sep 2020, 7:30 am

Guilty as charged :)

But, sometimes, even in the heavy political threads (or especially in the heavy political threads), a little levity and humor goes a long way. Some of this humor involves going slightly off topic.

I always seek to make my "contributions" related to the thread, somehow, albeit indirectly.



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16 Sep 2020, 7:44 am

The Grand Inquisitor wrote:
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This annoys me too. One time I started a thread and a member stated that they liked another member's avatar and then the whole thread turned into a discussion about the avatar, which was completely unrelated to my thread.

In some forums I've been to it is actually against the rules to go off-topic. But WP doesn't seem to have this rule, as well as not having the no necroposting rule.

Well you can use the report feature to report a post that's off-topic, so there are obviously some standards around off-topic posts.


I wouldn't want to report people for going off-topic, as they aren't doing anything offensive.

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That is actually what "socialization" is all about. Isn't that the whole point of being here, to socialize?


That's what the random discussion is for.

But it's no point in having a thread asking ''should I get a test for COVID?'' and the thread derails on to a topic of historical kings and queens, is there? (Please don't try to connect the two topics to try to prove that every subject in the world is somehow interconnected, because....just don't).
I'm not so annoyed with people going off on tangents if they were intending to answer the thread but it kind of turned into another related topic. But it annoys me more when people deliberately change the subject.

I think it's because I use this place as a discussion forum, more than a chat room. Facebook is more where I do small talk and get to know people.


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16 Sep 2020, 7:49 am

Cause it's the nature of online chat forum's and won't likely change anytime soon.Like the way trees grow in branches and city's have suburbs,conversations evolve.


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16 Sep 2020, 7:55 am

It's an Aspergian characteristic to want to talk about your special interests.

Many of us happen to like history----and want to insert it into every thread.

I agree we should be diligent about relating what is said to the topic at hand, though.

As for getting a COVID test.....definitely get one! And an antibodies test, too!

If an "original poster" wants strict adherence to the topic at hand, the "original poster" should say so, and the "original poster's" wishes granted without a comment from "either side."



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16 Sep 2020, 1:26 pm

Joe90 wrote:
This annoys me too. One time I started a thread and a member stated that they liked another member's avatar and then the whole thread turned into a discussion about the avatar, which was completely unrelated to my thread.

In some forums I've been to it is actually against the rules to go off-topic. But WP doesn't seem to have this rule, as well as not having the no necroposting rule.

People seem to think I'm talking about small conversations, lightly off topic remarks, and tangents in an attempt to actually respond to the OP, but this is what I mean. I should have known better than to make a post about this though on here. lol



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16 Sep 2020, 2:52 pm

HeroOfHyrule wrote:
Joe90 wrote:
This annoys me too. One time I started a thread and a member stated that they liked another member's avatar and then the whole thread turned into a discussion about the avatar, which was completely unrelated to my thread.

In some forums I've been to it is actually against the rules to go off-topic. But WP doesn't seem to have this rule, as well as not having the no necroposting rule.

People seem to think I'm talking about small conversations, lightly off topic remarks, and tangents in an attempt to actually respond to the OP, but this is what I mean. I should have known better than to make a post about this though on here. lol


I would like to learn to stick to the topic more, I will pay more attention in the future :D Maybe I will tease just a little bit to keep you all alert :D


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16 Sep 2020, 3:43 pm

It's fine to have a joke here and there but it can be annoying for the OP of a thread if there's a separate conversation going on between a couple of members within the thread. There's plenty of time and space for that in random discussion.


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16 Sep 2020, 3:53 pm

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It's fine to have a joke here and there but it can be annoying for the OP of a thread if there's a separate conversation going on between a couple of members within the thread. There's plenty of time and space for that in random discussion.


Yes, it is actually quite rude now that I think about it. I don't see it happening a lot in the threads I participate in (or maybe I am the guilty party :roll: ?). I sometimes am guilty of chatting to someone I have really missed who suddenly appears on a thread. I should really PM them, I get excited and forget that it is someone elses thread. It is actually very impolite, I agree.


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16 Sep 2020, 5:15 pm

My theory as to why:

low working memory is a part of executive dysfunction common on the spectrum.


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16 Sep 2020, 5:47 pm

Teach51 wrote:
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It's fine to have a joke here and there but it can be annoying for the OP of a thread if there's a separate conversation going on between a couple of members within the thread. There's plenty of time and space for that in random discussion.


Yes, it is actually quite rude now that I think about it. I don't see it happening a lot in the threads I participate in (or maybe I am the guilty party :roll: ?). I sometimes am guilty of chatting to someone I have really missed who suddenly appears on a thread. I should really PM them, I get excited and forget that it is someone elses thread. It is actually very impolite, I agree.


It's not rude exactly, just can be annoying, depending on the thread I suppose. It's not you who does it by the way. Well, we've all done it before on the occasion but I can't think of anyone's names who has a habit of doing it.
Sometimes conversations in threads steer on to another conversation without anyone, including the OP, noticing (or caring), but again that's not so annoying.

But sometimes a thread gets completely derailed so much by lots of irrelevant jokes and small talk, that the OP's question or discussion barely gets answered or discussed about, and then even if the OP does post about returning to the original topic, other posters just carry on the irrelevant conversation. That can be annoying. It's not bad or rude, just irritating sometimes. If I do accidentally go a little off-topic, I say "sorry, I went off-topic a bit there" and I don't intend to completely derail the whole thread.


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16 Sep 2020, 6:40 pm

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But sometimes a thread gets completely derailed so much by lots of irrelevant jokes and small talk, that the OP's question or discussion barely gets answered or discussed about, and then even if the OP does post about returning to the original topic, other posters just carry on the irrelevant conversation. That can be annoying. It's not bad or rude, just irritating sometimes. If I do accidentally go a little off-topic, I say "sorry, I went off-topic a bit there" and I don't intend to completely derail the whole thread.

That is why suggesting to "tell people to go back on topic" doesn't really work for what I'm talking about, and is why this caught my eye in the first place. I'd also argue skimming over the OPs and other users direction to stop blathering on their thread about other topics is rude, even if someone's autism somehow prevents them from realizing it is.



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17 Sep 2020, 2:45 am

Joe90 wrote:
It's fine to have a joke here and there but it can be annoying for the OP of a thread if there's a separate conversation going on between a couple of members within the thread. There's plenty of time and space for that in random discussion.


Encaptual the O/T conversation with "[spoil ]O/T comments[/spoil]"
Simples. 8)
That's what Blooiejagwa did. :mrgreen:



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17 Sep 2020, 6:26 am

It's kind fo inevitable that after a few pages the topic starts to shift gradually but that's not really what you are talking about. I'm sure autism has also a factor as autistic peope in eneral tend to go on side tangents and not be off-topic.


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