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07 Dec 2008, 12:02 am

I suggest that all our current moderators be scrapped and that wrong planet be closed until suitable replacements are found who will do their job and moderator the forums. Further more I suggest that all topics be closed, and that the the websites code be updated to a newer version with one that includes a report abuse button.

Oh and for all of you who are wondering why I am proposing such significant and radical changes here is why. I am tired of being verbally abused here, I am tired of being a punching bad this place is supposed to be a sanctuary instead it is a lawless website where rules and regulations are rarely enforced I found out about that the hard way.






Here are the PMs

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Here is my PM.

Hello, I would like to issue a complaint about a comment Fnord made 

In my haven thread FURIOUS TO THE POINT OF NUCLEAR MELTDOWN 

he wrote 

Now I understand why you are the way you are, PB. 

What I don't understand is why I went through the same things and have adjusted well enough to become a contributing member of society, rather than a perpetually angry and vindictive person who blames others for the problems I create for myself.

 We have been going at it for a while and he is doing stuff just to piss me off, I don't need this sh** and when I am down I really do not need to be kicked in the gut then the balls then bashed of the head, I mean I feel bad as it is without him making things worse. Please do something about him, because it has gotten to the point when I see his avatar or name it makes me angry.

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I have noticed that you have resorted to personally attacking him in your thread, and as you are well aware, this is not allowed. I understand you are under great stress in your personal life and know by personal experience having WrongPlanet.net to work it out in is very beneficial. I hope you can continue your thread and resolve many issues that concern you, but philosopherBoi, unless someone is violating the rules, (and if he is doing something you think is against the rules, I will be glad to research it) there is little I can do. 

I do know that I will not allow you to violate the rules, though. Please don't make personal attacks, as I am sure you know how horrible it is to be violated by others. 

all the best, 
Merle

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I am sorry but I have no respect for that bastard he can die within the fiery pits of hell for all I care, he has insulted me several times and I won't stand for it anymore. Now he did commit a personal attack if you cannot see that then perhaps Wrong Planet is nothing but a den of decay.


Here is what sinsboldly wrote in my thread as well.

philosopherBoi, you may not dictate who posts to threads nor may you attack a person personally on WP. I know this is a delicate topic for you, however you may not violate the rules of WP.

Merle




Not only was a personal attack against me not dealt with I got crap from one of our own moderators. This is not acceptable behavior for normal user and most certinally not acceptable behavior for moderators.



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07 Dec 2008, 12:06 am

It may be a wiser course of action to determine the one common factor in all of your troubles and immediately begin taking corrective measures on your own, instead of advocating an overthrow of the WP moderatorial staff and a complete shut-down of WP itself.


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07 Dec 2008, 12:20 am

Which would be you of course your nothing but a troll, it took you what two minutes to comment here and the only reason you did so was to anger me and cause me distress well it won't work I am beyond you now you cannot control my emotions or cause me pain any longer.



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07 Dec 2008, 12:30 am

philosopherBoi wrote:
Which would be you of course your nothing but a troll, it took you what two minutes to comment here and the only reason you did so was to anger me and cause me distress well it won't work I am beyond you now you cannot control my emotions or cause me pain any longer.

I've been commenting all over the place, and even updating my blog. I am not trying to anger you or cause you distress. But since I no longer bother you, why can't we just be freinds?


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07 Dec 2008, 1:48 am

I guess from my own experience I find this issue difficult to relate to.

I've been much less distressed by the missing two centimeters than I have been over the usual long term lack of a suitable place to put the part that remains.


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07 Dec 2008, 2:19 am

CanyonWind wrote:
I guess from my own experience I find this issue difficult to relate to.

I've been much less distressed by the missing two centimeters than I have been over the usual long term lack of a suitable place to put the part that remains.


Um, what on earth does this mean?



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07 Dec 2008, 2:28 am

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CanyonWind wrote:
I guess from my own experience I find this issue difficult to relate to.

I've been much less distressed by the missing two centimeters than I have been over the usual long term lack of a suitable place to put the part that remains.


Um, what on earth does this mean?


He is referring to a penis if I am not mistaken, but this topic is not about the penis so lets not discuss that if you wish to talk about that well that is why we have a PPR board.



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07 Dec 2008, 3:18 am

easy just dont go on wrong planet and go on else


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07 Dec 2008, 3:20 am

Normally, I'd be the first one in line to call for moderator oversight and reform, but this is not the cause for it. I mean, not to be too much of a dick, but do you honestly expect the largest Autism discussion board on the Net to shut itself down because you don't like someone's opinion and the mods won't punish him for disagreeing with you? You are the one breaking the rules in this case, nothing that Fnord has said falls under the definition of trolling or harassment. I disagree with his reasons for voting how he did (something to do with not being consulted on the matter if I recall), but I do understand why he would take it upon himself to remind people that a freely passed law is legal and binding whether they like it or not. The job of the moderators is to enforce the rules so that the site runs most smoothly, not to be PC police making sure that everyone is as unoffensive as possible. If Fnord breaks the rules, let them know, but expect that if you also break the rules, you're going down too.


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07 Dec 2008, 3:58 am

*shakes head* This is a personal issue, that would be best addressed between you and Fnord. While it isn't something that makes you warm and fuzzy, he didn't attack you. And while there might be more kind ways of saying that, this is not indicative of some great collapse of this site. I've spoken out in the past about my dislike for the subjective manner of moderation - so rather than complaining about it, I say something in the thread or the person involved. If the problem persists, then others might need to be involved. Sorry if you don't like what I have to say, but I think this is a petty response to a personal affront, and doesn't belong here. The Haven is provided for us to vent (-not- attack or spew venom) without reproach; I'd suggest that might not be a bad place to start.


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07 Dec 2008, 9:39 am

philosopherBoi, how about posting a link to the topic where you say Fnord attacked you? Context is important in such a judgement.


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07 Dec 2008, 10:45 am

philosopherBoi wrote:
AliasPseudonym wrote:
CanyonWind wrote:
I guess from my own experience I find this issue difficult to relate to.

I've been much less distressed by the missing two centimeters than I have been over the usual long term lack of a suitable place to put the part that remains.


Um, what on earth does this mean?


He is referring to a penis if I am not mistaken, but this topic is not about the penis so lets not discuss that if you wish to talk about that well that is why we have a PPR board.


But if I posted a thread about that topic in PPR, it would just turn into a wiener roast.


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07 Dec 2008, 11:07 am

As I posted above, I'm willing to be friends. However, this does not mean that I will ignore a topic that I disagree with, nor will I remain silent. Please, people, just get used to the fact that we're all individuals, each with differing opinions and perspectives. We do not have to agree, but it would certainly help to not cause trouble over a mere difference of opinion, or the failure for one person to get their way.


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07 Dec 2008, 11:18 am

Compassion all around is appropriate here. For example, Fnord is currently experiencing extreme emotional trauma anytime anything reminds him of emos.

I'm not sure what triggered this, but I suspect he might have had a precognition about his next incarnation.


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07 Dec 2008, 12:02 pm

Is this an accurate summary of what's going on here?

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Original thread:
Fnord says: Now I understand why you are the way you are, PB.
Sinsbodly says: Fnord didn't violate rules. pB later attacked Fnord which is a violation of the rules.

This thread:
Fnord says: pB's probems are caused by pB.
pB says: Fnord's a troll.
Fnord says: I'm just stating my opinion, not trying to cause harm. Let's be friends.

[ a bunch of stuff about ego ]

Fnord says: I'll still be friends, but if I disagree with an opinion I will still respond with such.
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Is this it? Seems like a lot of drama over nothing.



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07 Dec 2008, 4:00 pm

now now lets not go to such extremes of a total shut down PhilosopherBoi. Heres what I think we should do. Alex should come to power again, freeze all moderator powers, nominate 20 new candidates, including all of the old, and have us all vote in new moderators or vote old ones back in and we hold such a vote every 2-4 years.

democracy always wins.


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