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09 Dec 2008, 4:45 pm

Just wondering... I was posting on a thread, forget which specific part of the forum, at about 2pm my time this afternoon. Returned from work at 10pmish my time, and its gone. AWOL. Missing from site. No longer there. Title of Gallipoli. Might have been in the films bit. So.. where did it go? Any offers? Was it kidnapped and slaved off in a Zanzibari meat-market? Cut up for words in a syntax chopshop? Abducted by aliens and experimented on? Renditioned to Guantanamo? Run away to the gold-paved streets of London town, there to seek its fortune amongst the urchins and ladies of negotiable affection with hearts of gold?


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09 Dec 2008, 4:50 pm

Interesting google cached the link to the feed but it has ideed gone.



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09 Dec 2008, 4:54 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
Interesting google cached the link to the feed but it has ideed gone.


Correct. I did searches under various participants posts, found nothing. I hypothesis that it was deleted. Any mods care to confirm/deny/extrapolate?


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09 Dec 2008, 5:04 pm

If is actually deleted I doubt it was the mods. Mods don't usually get the powers to do that because deleting threads can cause problems with the forum structure/counts.

From experence it is probably a curruption. The record might actually be there or not. It depends.



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09 Dec 2008, 5:39 pm

Now, Macbeth, would you care to hazard a guess at how many of the WrongPlanet Rules were being broken in the thread?


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09 Dec 2008, 6:21 pm

I don't doubt more than one. I merely think it a little arbitrary to simply remove its existence completely, without warning or explanation to be a touch brusque , perhaps a little rude. A brief note of explanation would be nice perhaps. That sort of thing. I've seen threads here many a time that have breached various rules and not disappeared into the ether without some token gesture from a moderator. A post added "none of that sort of thing"... "careful now"... Mayhaps a token message in private to those involved, heralding the fall of the guillotine, the fast drop and quick stop of the editing functions.

Was the debate without merit so much that it did not even deserve that? Was it laden so heavily with misdemeanant piled upon crime that it was without rescue? Did its tone so readily void its content?

Arbitrary and unwarned are the watchwords, gentlemen. It concerns me that other actions might take place with so little forewarning. The banhammer can fall swift and harsh, but tradition and politeness holds that it not be silent, surely?


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09 Dec 2008, 6:27 pm

I wonder if the rule against discussion of locked threads might one day be expanded to include a ban on the discussion of deleted threads as well.



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09 Dec 2008, 6:52 pm

Macbeth wrote:
I don't doubt more than one...
... therefore I wonder why you have chosen to create this thread, as you were fully aware of exactly why the thread had been moved.



Oh... and PS.... the banhammer on WP is utterly silent.


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10 Dec 2008, 4:36 am

lau wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
I don't doubt more than one...
... therefore I wonder why you have chosen to create this thread, as you were fully aware of exactly why the thread had been moved.



Oh... and PS.... the banhammer on WP is utterly silent.


Because, as I said, I've seen many a thread devolve in a similar way, where some form of warning or participation by a mod first occurred. Where was that activity on this thread?

And the thread was not moved.. which is what I first thought.. it disappeared totally, which is a new one on me.

It vanished without warning COMPLETELY.

As for discussion of locked threads.. this is not a discussion of a thread. It is a discussion of WHY a thread vanished.

The suggestion that it be forbidden to even ask about a threads fate strikes me as a very "secret police" sort of mindset.

"But what happened to the family next door papa?"
"Shh little Ivan, we must not speak of it, or we too will vanish. The men will come in the night, and we will never be seen again..."

And on an entirely personal note: Is it customary to address legitimate queries in a tone better suited to addressing a child? I am not without skill or knowledge of the art of moderation, having done such a thing on more than one occasion, on forums and IRC. I would appreciate it if a question asked were answered with something a little more considerate than "because".

Answering the first three words of what I said, and ignoring the rest is more than a touch impolite... apart from the banhammer bit, which is exactly what I first thought.. that it is quite possible to be banned suddenly, without warning. Is this really considered to be an acceptable way of policing matters?


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