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Fair or unfair?
Fair 38%  38%  [ 3 ]
Unfair 63%  63%  [ 5 ]
Total votes : 8

atari2600a
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15 Jan 2009, 3:24 am

As many of you know, Alexandra Kayukov is an anti-autistic group administrator on facebook & has made a youtube video about how we all like to rape people & stuff.

I come back one day & see this in my inbox:

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From: sinsboldly
To: atari2600a
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:20 pm
Subject: FINAL WARNING Quote message
Leave what is on Facebook on Facebook don't bring it here!

*Personal attacks against people or other sites are not permitted. If you have an issue with someone, talk to them about it somewhere other than our forum.


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Between You and Alexandra Kayukov

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My thread, nothing more than a transcription of a conversation between me & Alexandra, was deleted! I fail to see how it was a 'personal attack' any more than someone creating a thread about bush or any other public figure! Furthermore the material was quoted, not original & intended to flame someone.

So I figured I'd start a poll to see what you, the people, think about whether my thread was rightfully deleted or not.



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15 Jan 2009, 9:40 pm

The inappropriate part is that you were publishing a private correspondence without the permission of the other person. Much as I dislike her efforts to demonize autistics, she still has the same rights to privacy in regards to personal communication as any other human.


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15 Jan 2009, 10:56 pm

Orwell wrote:
The inappropriate part is that you were publishing a private correspondence without the permission of the other person. Much as I dislike her efforts to demonize autistics, she still has the same rights to privacy in regards to personal communication as any other human.


The question would be whether or not is the job of WP staff to enforce PM etiquette. Like many of the rules here, I find this one to be somewhat arbitrary, since the person being discussed has made herself into a psuedo-public figure, why would discussing them be any different than discussing W in PPR? It also belies that line I've heard trotted out a few times about this place being an archive of autistic thought, never to be deleted, etc etc when someone wants their old posts deleted, but that's another can of worms.


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15 Jan 2009, 11:17 pm

Dox47 wrote:
The question would be whether or not is the job of WP staff to enforce PM etiquette. Like many of the rules here, I find this one to be somewhat arbitrary, since the person being discussed has made herself into a psuedo-public figure, why would discussing them be any different than discussing W in PPR? It also belies that line I've heard trotted out a few times about this place being an archive of autistic thought, never to be deleted, etc etc when someone wants their old posts deleted, but that's another can of worms.

Because private correspondence is different from what the President of the United States says in front of television cameras.

I know Aspies tend to have crappy social skills, but come on! I can't be the only one who sees how incredibly rude and inappropriate such behavior is. (Well, obviously I'm not the only one, since the mods deleted the thread)


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16 Jan 2009, 1:40 am

Is the youtube video link posted here, and where?


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16 Jan 2009, 2:34 am

Hay guys, a mod deleted my thread, LETS MAKE A POLL ABOUT IT 8)



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16 Jan 2009, 3:46 am

Orwell wrote:
Because private correspondence is different from what the President of the United States says in front of television cameras.

I know Aspies tend to have crappy social skills, but come on! I can't be the only one who sees how incredibly rude and inappropriate such behavior is. (Well, obviously I'm not the only one, since the mods deleted the thread)


But again, I can't seem to find where in the rules is prohibits posting private correspondences with a third party, bad etiquette that may be, but it's not actually a rule violation. What I'm calling arbitrary is the distinction between public figures, why is talking about one ok but not the other? If someone actually had a verifiable email conversation with, say W since he was my example, I doubt anyone would have a problem with it being posted for comment, except maybe him. This is a person who's involved with the perception of autism, so I would think that a conversation with her might be of interest to an autism community, except that there is yet another random rule in the way, and given our opaque system of moderation, no way to question it.


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16 Jan 2009, 5:45 am

BreakTheSilence wrote:
Hay guys, a mod deleted my thread, LETS MAKE A POLL ABOUT IT 8)


Ya I kno! :o



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17 Jan 2009, 3:36 am

BreakTheSilence wrote:
Hay guys, a mod deleted my thread, LETS MAKE A POLL ABOUT IT 8)
Your avatar rules. :lol: