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TallyMan
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16 Mar 2009, 5:20 pm

It has taken me an hour to log onto on WP and read one post on one forum!

If WP goes any slower it will be going backwards and people will be logging off then making unposts and uncomments about existing posts and threads will get shorter until the users finally log on and then open their browser.


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16 Mar 2009, 7:19 pm

Yeah I know.

Another member made a thread about that and I was going to make one in the WP Discussion.


We have so many members now! 8O


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16 Mar 2009, 9:37 pm

Alex, time to defrag or clean out the servers, huh?

It's been very slow with me too. It took me like five minutes just from clicking on reply to get here to type this.



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16 Mar 2009, 10:17 pm

It's normally like this when there are 500 or more people on.



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16 Mar 2009, 10:19 pm

time to move to a bigger ISP



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17 Mar 2009, 6:16 am

MissConstrue wrote:
We have so many members now! 8O

But hardly any of them are active.


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17 Mar 2009, 6:45 am

Orwell wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
We have so many members now! 8O

But hardly any of them are active.


How many active do you think? Less than 500 or around that I'd think. More like me who post occasionally. A site like this has a lot of lurkers too and probably attracts lots of bots


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17 Mar 2009, 7:54 am

digger1 wrote:
time to move to a bigger ISP


Seconded.

I kind of like seeing more posters than usual here.

Gives it a variety with flavors.


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17 Mar 2009, 8:11 am

parts wrote:
Orwell wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
We have so many members now! 8O

But hardly any of them are active.


How many active do you think? Less than 500 or around that I'd think. More like me who post occasionally. A site like this has a lot of lurkers too and probably attracts lots of bots

I don't know, probably 300 regulars at the outside, some occasional posters. Then there's a lot of former members who don't post any more but still show up in the 25,224 number, along with people who have only ever posted once or twice or who seemingly got an account just so they could see the "members only" section. And yeah, I'm sure there are a number of lurkers as well, but I'd be surprised if lurkers exceeded regular posters.


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17 Mar 2009, 8:53 am

It is nothing to do with an internet service provider, which is what you use to access the internet.

I have also explained that a more powerful server won't in itself solve the problem, and it not fair on those donating money towards such a white elephant. It is an exercise in chasing your tail.

The problem lies in the fact that is site is sitting on data that goes back to 2004 which slows everything down but rarely queried. It is also down to the inefficiency of the code. There are so many things that could be done, it is literally countless. You can get really creative with it. By just an example if you turned of BBcode parsing in peak areas the speed will sky rocket. If users could cold choose text only like on other forums then they might be less frustrated, you might have noticed that feed are not as slowed down for this reason. But he main thing is they need to dump or archive some of the data.

I have given up trying to convince alex of this, it has fallen on deaf ears.

I am experienced in this area and written extensions for forum software so I know what I am talking about.



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17 Mar 2009, 9:03 am

Orwell wrote:
parts wrote:
Orwell wrote:
MissConstrue wrote:
We have so many members now! 8O

But hardly any of them are active.


How many active do you think? Less than 500 or around that I'd think. More like me who post occasionally. A site like this has a lot of lurkers too and probably attracts lots of bots

I don't know, probably 300 regulars at the outside, some occasional posters. Then there's a lot of former members who don't post any more but still show up in the 25,224 number, along with people who have only ever posted once or twice or who seemingly got an account just so they could see the "members only" section. And yeah, I'm sure there are a number of lurkers as well, but I'd be surprised if lurkers exceeded regular posters.


I've been here since 05 a lot have come and gone either banned , moved on to greener pastures or just moved on all still counted though


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17 Mar 2009, 9:14 am

0_equals_true wrote:
It is nothing to do with an internet service provider, which is what you use to access the internet.

I have also explained that a more powerful server won't in itself solve the problem, and it not fair on those donating money towards such a white elephant. It is an exercise in chasing your tail.

The problem lies in the fact that is site is sitting on data that goes back to 2004 which slows everything down but rarely queried. It is also down to the inefficiency of the code. There are so many things that could be done, it is literally countless. You can get really creative with it. By just an example if you turned of BBcode parsing in peak areas the speed will sky rocket. If users could cold choose text only like on other forums then they might be less frustrated, you might have noticed that feed are not as slowed down for this reason. But he main thing is they need to dump or archive some of the data.

I have given up trying to convince alex of this, it has fallen on deaf ears.

I am experienced in this area and written extensions for forum software so I know what I am talking about.

Maybe you should volunteer to implement some of these changes?


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17 Mar 2009, 11:06 am

I've got a better idea. Make my own forum with those features and more. :) Already on it.



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17 Mar 2009, 11:34 am

Good luck getting any decent number of WP members to move there. Break-off forums have been created before, and they haven't managed to gain very large or active memberships.


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17 Mar 2009, 11:50 am

One suggestion that would speed things up but not need a lot of code:

Add a dropdown menu to link directly to each forum. I think a lot of people maybe step from one forum to the next and this takes two steps rather than one since you have to go via the forum index page. I know I could create my own bookmarks to each forum, but a central one would be better and could be used by everyone.

If I'm in the computers forum, at peak load it sometime takes five minutes to get to the index page then another five minutes to get into the next forum; assuming they even open and I don't get the "Very Busy" page.


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17 Mar 2009, 12:36 pm

Orwell wrote:
Good luck getting any decent number of WP members to move there. Break-off forums have been created before, and they haven't managed to gain very large or active memberships.

Who says this is going to be a "break off" forum?