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30 Jan 2011, 6:45 pm

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In the world, it is a question of productivity. If I want to test your ability to perform multiplication and give you a test with 15 fairly straightforward equations and 30 minutes to do it (2 minutes per question), if you know how to do multiplication, then there is no reason you can't get 100% in under 30 minutes.

If you don't panic at the idea of competing against a clock, and you know how to do multiplication, then it's a pass/fail matter. You should not need 5 minutes per question to do something any competent person could probably do in under 1 minutes/question.

Now, on more esoteric exams (like essay exams I did in law school), it was insane how you had to do stuff from memory in 3 hours....not because it wasn't enough time, but in real life nobody would ever expect you to be able to rattle off all you learned on a topic in 3 hours without access to research and notes. Of course, that's how the bar exam works, so you're tested that way. :roll:


I suppose. But for me, it feels more like just reguritating information.

It doesn't actual put any use to the knowledge your using.



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30 Jan 2011, 8:37 pm

Yep. That is a lot of what school is. And you have to deal with it.



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30 Jan 2011, 9:53 pm

Do what you need to do to get by, and to hell with what your parents want you to do. You're an adult, for crying out loud.



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30 Jan 2011, 11:24 pm

alicedress wrote:
Do what you need to do to get by, and to hell with what your parents want you to do. You're an adult, for crying out loud.


They are my factory. I know that sounds stupid, but I hate doing things against them because then I feel I failed them.



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31 Jan 2011, 1:03 am

I feel that way too kinda. I don't like going against my family. I am often scared to tell them things that I think they would not like to hear, just because I need them.



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31 Jan 2011, 1:11 am

Pandora_Box wrote:
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I have timed online quizzes for one of my courses too....actually I also had them in class for my neuroscience course last semester. I get SO anxious whenever I have one of them and since there is roughly one a week (for my current class) I am anxious quite a lot now. I can't stand the feeling that I might run out of time. Nonetheless........ I've actually done pretty well on them and am starting to get used to them.


Same I have those very anxieties. That and the way I test is extremely different. See I read the chapter and may know the answers. However, I always read the book, take the test, read over the text questions and double check them with the book to make sure. Which doesn't always take 15 minutes.


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Having said that you could go and ask for extra time on the quizzes. Asking for the accommodations should go through a disabilities dept. and should be confidential. I don't think you have to worry about "opening a can of worms". The worst that can happen is that they decide it is not a reasonable accommodation.....


My parents told me I need to stop worrying and that I don't want to do something like that. And that I just need to learn how to adapt.


I always feel the need to check over my answers as well...when I do have extra time I will keep compulsively checking no matter how quickly I finish the exam.......once I went back to the alternate exam center after I had finished and turned in my exam and begged them to let me check over my answers (while they watched me do it and made sure I didn't change any of my answers) just so that I would know whether or not I had made a lot of horrible mistakes or left out a bunch of questions (even though I couldn’t do anything about it at that point)!

If you think the anxiety around taking these timed quizzes is causing you to do more poorly on them than you would otherwise because you can't stop thinking about the time limit and thus cannot focus on the quiz then getting an accommodation of extra time is just "levelling the playing field' , i.e. making it so that you have just as good a chance as doing well as the other students when you put in the same amount of effort (and have the same level of understanding of the material as the other students) . This seems like it is only fair to me and accommodations for students with disabilities exist for this reason. If you have already tried "just adapting" and it's not working then you I think you should "open the can of worms"!



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31 Jan 2011, 1:30 am

daydreamer84 just said it all. I really want to see you succeed pandorabox



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31 Jan 2011, 9:05 am

Pandora_Box wrote:
I suppose. But for me, it feels more like just reguritating information.


Well, it is, but for testing a group of people or making a standardized test procedure, it's about the only way.

I can't test your ability to do a job by handing you a file and say, "do this" and then judge your end-product....Well, I could, but it would be impractical, prone to my subjective interpretation of quality and impossible to do for a large number of candidates.

It is also how there is a given number of people who pass tests to get hired and later are fired for incompetence.

They may be smart and able to excel on the objective screening tests, but when it comes to doing the job, they are clueless. Since most people who excel on screening tests do well at the job, remaining with this practice seems sensible.