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23 Mar 2012, 1:28 pm

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If you find the subjects "lame and almost impossible to focus on", why the hell did you choose them, may I ask?
Core Curriculum, like the other dude said. That's why bro.


Very weird. College is American university right? I would have thought you did one subject to get a degree.


US University/College is structured differently than that.

Typically, US college/University is designed to build "Well Rounded" Individuals who have a "Major" and a "Minor" or in some cases Two Majors, ( I think they call these Firsts in the UK) but you more or less spend your first 2 years (of 4) concentrating on "Core Curriculum" such as Composition, Maths, in a lot of instances basic Humanities classes, Public Speaking, P.E. etc.

I find it onerous in the extreme because it doesn't allow you to focus on your strengths but almost seems to be designed to allow your weaknesses to pull you under.


That sounds like an utterly stupid way to get a degree, especially considering you pay so much for the privilege of being there. Come over the UK instead, it'll probably be cheaper too :P



Believe me, I would love to. In addition to being more specific in the graduation requirements and cheaper, Your schools actually offer what I want to study to boot. But alas, it isn't that easy. Though my US Federal Financial aid would pay for the tuition (which is extremely reasonable in comparison even after the recent price hikes) I'd effectively have to pay for all of my living expenses totally out of pocket. Which would mean loans for a great deal of it, as student visas only allow you to work 20 hours a week.


Ahh that's a shame. Can't you get loans from the Student Loans Company if you come from the US?



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23 Mar 2012, 4:35 pm

Asp-Z wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Sickpuppies124 wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
If you find the subjects "lame and almost impossible to focus on", why the hell did you choose them, may I ask?
Core Curriculum, like the other dude said. That's why bro.


Very weird. College is American university right? I would have thought you did one subject to get a degree.


US University/College is structured differently than that.

Typically, US college/University is designed to build "Well Rounded" Individuals who have a "Major" and a "Minor" or in some cases Two Majors, ( I think they call these Firsts in the UK) but you more or less spend your first 2 years (of 4) concentrating on "Core Curriculum" such as Composition, Maths, in a lot of instances basic Humanities classes, Public Speaking, P.E. etc.

I find it onerous in the extreme because it doesn't allow you to focus on your strengths but almost seems to be designed to allow your weaknesses to pull you under.


That sounds like an utterly stupid way to get a degree, especially considering you pay so much for the privilege of being there. Come over the UK instead, it'll probably be cheaper too :P



Believe me, I would love to. In addition to being more specific in the graduation requirements and cheaper, Your schools actually offer what I want to study to boot. But alas, it isn't that easy. Though my US Federal Financial aid would pay for the tuition (which is extremely reasonable in comparison even after the recent price hikes) I'd effectively have to pay for all of my living expenses totally out of pocket. Which would mean loans for a great deal of it, as student visas only allow you to work 20 hours a week.


Ahh that's a shame. Can't you get loans from the Student Loans Company if you come from the US?


yes, but largely due to currency exchange, the Federal government loans (The ones I don't have to pay interest on) would be insufficient to pay for the increased living expenses in the UK. To be honest, as it is now, due to my financial situation and GPA I get a 98% free ride.. I would rather save the loans and use them to try and go to Grad School in the UK.



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23 Mar 2012, 4:36 pm

Sounds like you got it planned out, I wish you luck.



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23 Mar 2012, 6:51 pm

Thanks.

I'm sure I'm going to need it. Right now I just have to get through the dread remedial math before I can even take my core curriculum math,..



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23 Mar 2012, 11:36 pm

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Instead, I kept plodding through, miserable all the time, because people will keep telling you it gets better when you get to this or that level, but it never has for me. Each level comes with a whole new set of frustrations.


But it does. Once you start studying things you actually enjoy, getting up in the morning is so much easier.

I don't go to school anymore. I don't work. With the classes I have now, I basically get credit for playing around and having fun.


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26 Mar 2012, 1:26 am

Once you're done with it. That's when life gets "better," at least I think so anyway. It's just like high school, except we have more freedom. At least be thankful for that- I know I am.



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26 Mar 2012, 1:48 am

In my experience, college never gets good, no matter what subjects you're interested in, or how many prerequisite classes you've take in order to get to the 'good' classes. Certainly not in conventional college, anyway. That's why I'm considering enrolling in a film apprenticeship program, instead of a technical college or even film school. Without the real-world setting, situation and goals, it's all talk, and I can never find the self-motivation to do the work just because someone says so.


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26 Mar 2012, 10:54 am

As a person who's entering my final year of university, I would like to tell you that university can only get better as you study what you like.
My story:
I studied chemistry as a specialist for two years of university, hated it, and now study English literature. My marks are much better and I am happier.



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26 Mar 2012, 11:04 am

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As a person who's entering my final year of university, I would like to tell you that university can only get better as you study what you like.
My story:
I studied chemistry as a specialist for two years of university, hated it, and now study English literature. My marks are much better and I am happier.


Despite it being (ahem) a few years since I was at uni if you're not happy doing what you wanted to do when you're there either:

(a) change course
(b) determine what you want to do
(c) leave

I was a lecturer, briefly, and loved it but there were two of my undergrads who were VERY *obviously* neither enjoying it nor getting it.

One went on to be an accountant (and now does my taxes), the other is a maths teacher.



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03 Apr 2012, 3:47 am

For me, it never got good. It was always dull and uninspiring, and I hated having to take classes I had no use or want for. I didn't make any friends either. All it got me was $25,000 of debt that I have no way of paying off. Life is good (not).



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10 Apr 2012, 12:33 am

Sometimes doesnt get good, just have to do all in your power to make it better. Things arent always great right away, or what you totally want. tehy just take a little bit of work.



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10 Apr 2012, 9:02 am

Asp-Z wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
rabbittss wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
Sickpuppies124 wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
If you find the subjects "lame and almost impossible to focus on", why the hell did you choose them, may I ask?
Core Curriculum, like the other dude said. That's why bro.


Very weird. College is American university right? I would have thought you did one subject to get a degree.


US University/College is structured differently than that.

Typically, US college/University is designed to build "Well Rounded" Individuals who have a "Major" and a "Minor" or in some cases Two Majors, ( I think they call these Firsts in the UK) but you more or less spend your first 2 years (of 4) concentrating on "Core Curriculum" such as Composition, Maths, in a lot of instances basic Humanities classes, Public Speaking, P.E. etc.

I find it onerous in the extreme because it doesn't allow you to focus on your strengths but almost seems to be designed to allow your weaknesses to pull you under.


That sounds like an utterly stupid way to get a degree, especially considering you pay so much for the privilege of being there. Come over the UK instead, it'll probably be cheaper too :P



Believe me, I would love to. In addition to being more specific in the graduation requirements and cheaper, Your schools actually offer what I want to study to boot. But alas, it isn't that easy. Though my US Federal Financial aid would pay for the tuition (which is extremely reasonable in comparison even after the recent price hikes) I'd effectively have to pay for all of my living expenses totally out of pocket. Which would mean loans for a great deal of it, as student visas only allow you to work 20 hours a week.


Ahh that's a shame. Can't you get loans from the Student Loans Company if you come from the US?


Then you can owe money....which really sucks if college ends up not working out for you and the only work you can find is probably close to minimum wage and things aren't likely to improve much. But loans can be helpful I suppose.


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11 May 2012, 11:36 am

Currently having thought about dropping out right now... I feel like I go and can't learn anything that well...