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ramsamsam
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04 Nov 2005, 8:55 am

Well, thanks I'm sorry about the typing error.
Anixled I guess yours is a bit more extreme than being seen as 'escentric' and 'akward'. I'm unintentionally rude, I just can't help saying what I think. I have a short temper.



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04 Nov 2005, 9:41 am

ramsamsam wrote:
Well, thanks I'm sorry about the typing error.


No need to apologize. (I am surprised that in a place like this, no one else mentioned it sooner. Where are the pedants?) I found the title humorous because of the visual picture I was getting.



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04 Nov 2005, 11:00 pm

Fit in. Ha. Yeah. Right.


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05 Nov 2005, 9:42 am

I'm quite pedantic when it comes to things I know aboout. If I don't know I won't pick-up. My guitar teacher says it does me no favours when I tell him a Dsus2 exists (it does, it says so in so many guitar books). I got round this point by calling it a Dadd9 with no third.
Anyw way back to the point at hand. I was getting along fine at college, unyil the other day when I realised that if I don't like hardly anyone there and they still talk to me, about crapp like films I hate, and how miserable and supposadly 'pretentious' I am.
Then why should I bother talking to them. They take the p*ss out of me flinching and call me vain (I'm the antithesis of vain, they only call me vain because I am neurotic about the way I look), sometimes they yawn when I speak to them, and all I do is act like a prat.
For instance I go up to this group of people walking like Ian Brown and say 'Look at me I'm Ian Brown from the Stone Roses.
They say i need to 'chill out', and they seem to have this attitude that you can't feel miserable. I find that depressing as hell.
I just cannot conect with them when it comes to things I don't care about.

I can talk to some people but the rest annoy the hell out of me.

Anyway sorry about my rant.

Neongirl I'm pleased that at least you saw some humour in my mistake.



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05 Nov 2005, 10:55 am

as far as school goes im just exsisting and hanging whith people from my LD class. and i dont care if i "accidently" make make a rude comment even though i really dont mean to thats why they always call me captin ovious or spiderman. so my other name is spiderman.



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05 Nov 2005, 2:04 pm

Fitting in was always difficult for me. In 1st and 2nd grade, it wasn't too bad. I had a few problems, but nothing that serious. It wasn't until 4th grade when I switched schools my problems started surfacing. I went from an all boys school which emphasized academics to a coed school which emphasized sports and if a boy wasn't interested in sports, that boy was treated poorly. I still remember getting respected at one school for earning high marks to being ridiculed at the new school for it. Transfer students aren't treated well at most schools and have to work harder for acceptance than do those who are already there. In addition, my sister would often get her friends to tease me and when I told my parents, she wouldn't deny it, yet they said nothing to her.

Fifth grade at that school was more difficult because I got placed into a class with none of the kids in my previous class. In addition, because of my lack of interest or prowess in sports, I got labled gay by a bunch of my fellow students, which made life even more difficult for me. In addition, I had a bad teacher who was rough on everybody. It wasn't until my parents talked with another parent who's son had serious problems with her the year before that they started realize something was wrong. Also, I got ridiculed with some other non-sports kids because I had to spend a big parts of my afternoons picking up trash, since that's all they thought non-athlete boys were good enough for. My parents did complain about that and the principal promised it would stop, but of course, it didn't.

Sixth grade was my only year in Catholic school. Social problems weren't that bad there believe it or not, but I didn't do well in my English class because I didn't always do my work. That was also the year I had solid proof my parents were cheating me and there wasn't a thing I could do to stop it. When they took me from the all boys school, the way they did it was to keep at me day in and day out until I broke and decided I didn't want to be there anymore. They yelled at me about the school being a "playhouse," about constantly doing homework, and when I finally decided to leave, about how I wouldn't have to wear those "awful looking uniforms" anymore.

The school I had gone to had no recesses or uniforms and since they had no recesses, I thought that's what they meant by "playhouse" as the boy school had a recess every day. The Catholic school wore the same uniforms, had 2 recesses, and piled on the homework. It was also the first school year after my parents began denying me my summer vacations and forcing me into the swimming pool everyday when my sister went swimming, something I had a hard time dealing with. I was being royally cheated out of a normal life by my parents, and there was nothing I could do about it.

Seventh grade I was in a class full of students who had been put out of other schools, which of course I didn't fit in with. My sister was again in that same school, and she of course got her friends to tease me and when I complained to my parents, she joked about it, and my parent neither said nor did anything about it.

Grade 8 was my one year in public school, and was my absolute worst year in school. I got taunted about all sorts of things, including having a deep voice, being socially inept, and the list went on. It was hell for me and I couldn't keep my grades up, my parents nor the school would help me and in fact, they all blamed me for my problems and I got punished for the entire summer, spending it as my sister's swimming slave.

High school was difficult for me as well as I didn't want to date, go to ball games, or anything of that nature. I was an outsider they day I walked in because it was a church run school and everyone there had either gone to those churches or the other school affiliated with them and I hadn't, so I was an outcast. In addition, I refused to participate in a school sanctioned hazing week in which students get to humiliate freshman by making them dress in degrading costumes, push coins down the hall with their noses, and other degrading rituals. As a result, I was pretty much rejected by everyone for 4 years. I was so glad when I graduated.

The attitude my parents always seemed to have towards my social problems was how my sister didn't have them and always easily made friends, and I didn't, so there must be something wrong with me. I used to think that perhaps socialization was different for girls than for boys and my parents didn't see this. Of course my 3 older brothers also never had to deal with things to the extreme I did, but they weren't raised the way I was, i.e. their lives were for themselves and they weren't made into slaves of each other. Today I think there is even more to it than that in my case.


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06 Nov 2005, 1:00 pm

I have only felt like I belonged in the Electronics class in High School and now in the Computer Science and Engineering classes, where I was/am like everyone else (no surprise there).

Still, my lab mates in the Behavioral and Brain Science labs are kind to me. They treat me rather like a pet (project) or slightly addled little sister. Eccentric but useful. Sometimes I wonder if they sit around and speculate on what outlandishly stereotypically geeky computer nerd thing I will do next.

Honestly, Graduate School has been good for me. Thinking outside the box (or the building) is rewarded. And being off beat and absentmindedly obsessive is expected.

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06 Nov 2005, 10:53 pm

so far my sophmore year is going great im getting more exposure with people and im getting positive responses. but i still remain solitary at school.



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09 Nov 2005, 4:01 am

At college people annoy the hell out of me. I can't stand what they talk about. They also do things like eat vile food with their hands and not wash them afterwards.
I hate that I really do.
People are typically sincere to me, but I just think they're being phony and I can hardly relate to them.
They have alot of chummy ways that annoy me, and they're all hyperactive. I used to be abit hyperactive at school, inparticular during drama in which case I would be flamboyant but also akward.
Like when we were doing certain plays if I wasn't what I liked I just wouldn't be bothered with it all.



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14 Nov 2005, 4:10 pm

When I was little people used to bully me because I was "wierd".Whenever I told the teachers about it they would tell me just to ignore them.Whenever I did something back in self-defense or revenge I always got in trouble.Then in 5th grade there was this one teacher who said I wasn't allowed to play with other kids.

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15 Nov 2005, 4:35 am

Sounds similar to me. But they didn't say "Don't play with the other kids". I had a teacher once approach me when I was ten and he said; "Sam, you'd be more accepted if youu weren't so weird."
That's a bit odd if you ask me.



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21 Nov 2005, 11:44 am

I always had the right friends at the right time. So while I never really fitted in, I was also never an outcast.

That was until my High School years, I think I can say I fit in at the University.



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23 Nov 2005, 1:02 pm

ramsamsam wrote:
Sounds similar to me. But they didn't say "Don't play with the other kids". I had a teacher once approach me when I was ten and he said; "Sam, you'd be more accepted if youu weren't so weird."
That's a bit odd if you ask me.


That is out of line in my opinion for a teacher to do. I wouldn't want any kid to be taught by a narrowminded, ignorant person like that.

It's almost like the school I went to in 5th grade that put a heavy emphasis on sports. They treated me like I had something wrong with me because I was a male who wasn't interested in or good at sports. I never understood why that was an issue with them.

When I was in high school, they had what they called "Freshman Hell Week" where freshman students were required to subject themselves to all sorts of humiliations from senior students. Among them, dressing up in outrageous costumes and performing in front of the whole school to be laughed at. We also had to do things like pushing coins down the hall with our noses, eat babyfood, and they also had "air raids" when a senior yelled "air raid," freshmen had to dive to the floor and pretend to be shooting at planes.

I refused to do any of it and was harassed by the principal, assistant principal, and even sent to the counselor. I was basically told if I didn't start participating, my years in that school were going to be difficult. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. I always thought schools were supposed to provide a safe enviornment for students to learn and this private school was basically telling me they were going to be negligent in their duties and not provide that for me.

They were trying to force me into some narrow mold of what a teenager should be, which I wanted no part of. I just wanted to be me. I think they have no right to do this to us or anyone else.


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23 Nov 2005, 3:59 pm

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I piss off people instantly by my unintentional rudeness. If you are a serial killer but are polite have a nice smile, you will be loved. Strange how the world works. I never fit in anwhere and never will. I went back to college and boy I really don't fit in. THis place is full of some nerdy types like me, but I am extreme. Nothing worse than not having anyone to eat with or sitting in the front of a 200-300 person lecture class before class, and not having anyone to talk to in that crown of laughing and talking and socializing. Somone posted that article of a wrongplanet member who went postal, who had said he didn't have friends, only enemies. I feel that way too. I keep yeeling out I hate myself and I want to die. This sucks.I can't even amke friends with the emotional f*** in this school.

Do you get along with any teachers?
Perhaps you could ask them what the issue people have with you is.


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23 Nov 2005, 4:13 pm

I never really fit in until high school.
Then there were enough other eccentric people there that I've been told by a couple people I'm "popular."
Odd, when I try to avoid socialization as much as possible.


I completely get where Sean and Namiko(and some others) are coming from with the apathetic classmates.

I'm a libertarian and used to be a socialist, and have been politically aware since sixth grade. Meanwhile, every year my classmates get more apathetic.
I think we'd see a larger youth voting turnout, percentage wise, if we started voting at eight or ninish.

This year in Con Law at least I have several who can participate. Last year there were a couple but they stopped trying when we got a new teacher who only wanted us to be able to spout back the PC history she was feeding us. The sad thing was, the teacher didn't seem to realize that "something was necessary to end the de facto desegregation of the Boston schools" and other such things are opinions, not facts.

And AP Enviro gets some participation. Although the teacher, while nice, and observant, and very smart, assumes that to care about the enviroment you must be opposed to free market solutions on principle. That get's sort of annoying.

Now in English classes, I'm pretty much the only one to participate. Although in Ancient and Medival Loterature there were two girls who participated whenever feminist issues came up, and no, they're not the "bra-burning NARAL & PETA member" stereotype that certain people use in their attempts to reduce politics to a dichotomy.


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02 Jan 2006, 4:15 pm

At the moment, I'm finding high school a miserable experience.

I loved my freshman year. I was well-established in the school (that is, I knew most of the people in my classes from middle school, since the middle school was next door to the high school), had a close group of oddball friends, and was just opening up to the point where I could joke around with people outside of my 'friendzone' (as opposed to instantly becoming suspicious) after four years in the same place. I had a block schedule, which worked very well for me, and the classes moved at a pace that was perfect for my learning ability. Then I moved over the summer.

Now, because in the new state people are rather less friendly, I become terrified at the thought of approaching anyone (and it takes ages for me to trust anyone), and because I'm rather quiet when I don't really have a close friend or two, I've become rather a nonentity to everyone but about three teachers. I'm lonely. I really miss my old school, the block schedule at my old school (which the new one does not have), and my old friends (and the rest of the people from my old school). My mom's response to noticing I have no friends yet is to pressure me to join something, anything, which terrifies me even more because I tend to view after school as my recharge time/homework time.

I did attempt to join the Latin club (I am or was reckoned fairly good at languages, and I was in Latin club at my old school, which I thoroughly enjoyed), but after five consecutive failures to make it to the club on time to actually interact I lost my drive to join. At the moment I'm trying to train my dog for competitive Obedience, but that's definitely not going to help me make friends in school very well (most of the people in the training class I've entered have been my mother's age).

Thankfully I'm not getting bullied (as far as I know; I've failed to actually notice bullying before), probably due to the fact that I am such a nonentity at school. I'm not even very interesting for my intelligence, either; there are several people in my classes that I know of who are at my level or higher, even in my best classes. That really isn't doing much for my self-esteem; it makes me feel like I'm fairly substandard because even my best efforts aren't enough to really make me shine and with my bad abilities to make friends...well.