Is college really all what it is cracked up to be???

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18 Oct 2014, 8:59 am

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I have been running across different people who have college degrees yet no employment or whose employment has nothing to do with there degree and in reality had no bearing in them getting employed.
Is college really all what it is cracked up to be???


Yep, 'tis. It took a bit of digging, but the most recent US census numbers are here:
www.census.gov/compendia/statab/2012/tables/12s0232.pdf (not enough karma yet to make a link, sorry).

As of 2009, mean yearly earnings across the entire population for "Some college, no degree" is $32,295. Get your bachelor's degree and that jumps up to $56,665.

Ok, but that's five years out of date, right? How about in the current economy? Per the Bureau of Labor Statistics
www.bls.gov/emp/ep_chart_001.htm

the unemployment rate for "some college, no degree" was 7% with a median weekly salary of $727, and "Bachelor's degree" clocked in at a 4% unemployment rate with a $1,108 weekly salary.

If you want to look at recent graduate unemployment numbers by major, head over here:
georgetown.app.box.com/s/9t0p5tm0qhejyy8t8hub

Yes, things are a lot tougher for recent graduates, and there's significant variance across majors in terms of both unemployment and salary. But if you're playing the averages, going into debt for a STEM degree is probably the best investment you'll ever make.


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18 Oct 2014, 3:39 pm

I have recently been looking for a new job and let me tell you that if you don't have a degree then finding a job that pays well is far more difficult. If you do find a job that pays well without a degree there is a high likelihood that you won't be as eligible for promotion as someone who does have a degree.

Of course that is not ALWAYS true, but there are studies out there that show college graduates make more over their lifetime then those who don't graduate.

I do have a degree - and no I don't use it - but the fact that I have it shows that I can stick with something that is difficult over a long period of time.


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18 Oct 2014, 6:54 pm

I'm sure what program you pick will dictate the success you have in the job market but even with a good degree, you won't have much luck getting a job when you have to compete with other applicants who have a degree and several years of work experience you need. Nowadays I've actually heard people say that the college degree is like the new high school diploma because getting a degree is the only way you can keep up with everyone else. I can tell you that work experience is always going to win employers over a degree. Employers nowadays don't want to have to train anybody and they want proven talent. A piece of paper that says you studied isn't enough. I can tell you I have never been able to get any jobs with my degree yet either. All the jobs I've gotten have only required a high school diploma. I think in order to truly make yourself competitive when you graduate, you'll need to take internships while you are in school and that can make a difference. I regret not taking any internships because now that I've graduated, I can't even do internships now because they want people IN school to do them, not graduates, But in the end I still do feel that my degree can maybe help me with a promotion someday. There are some entry level companies like Coca Cola or Pepsi who will promote others with any degree, no matter what it's in.


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