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nocturnalowl
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31 Aug 2005, 10:51 am

That is obvious since math and sci. are applied courses, except for the more theoretical math and sci. courses. (ie. PROVE that 1+1=2)



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31 Aug 2005, 11:47 am

nocturnalowl wrote:
That is obvious since math and sci. are applied courses, except for the more theoretical math and sci. courses. (ie. PROVE that 1+1=2)


Yeah, well, my instinct is to point out the obvious. ;) However, calculus is more theoretical than other maths, well, until it is applied to physics, that is!


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31 Aug 2005, 10:14 pm

I am currently in an honors English course, AP European History, and Algebra II/Trigonometry, but my junior year will have three AP classes and one honors, I believe.

I'd better start studying...


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01 Sep 2005, 6:20 pm

Starting next week I will be teaching advanced classes at a private school.
Most of my students and I will have at least one thing in common, we're all Aspies.

Does that count.

Would love to hear all of your wonderful ideas and comments about how to make this best work for my students and I.



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08 Sep 2005, 8:10 pm

I personally think it would be awesome having an aspie teacher like irishmic teach my classes :mrgreen: (I actually found out my world history teacher has autism.) Anywho, my highschool put me in all honor academics classes, which I'm surprised I can actually keep up w/. :roll:


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08 Sep 2005, 8:54 pm

I took a creative writing class in hiku poetry. It was a hoot and a great , fun experiment.

An ADD friend and I used a thesaurus, a random number generator, and a visual basic program to crank out homework poems that had ABSOLUTLY NO meanings. Then we'd sit back in class and watch the teacher talk about the symbolism and inner workings of the poem.

Teacher got really mad at the end of the year when the class was over and TOm and I explained the experiment to her. Really we only told her because there were a few issues that she would not stop talking about that sugguested she might need professional help.

Probably should not have told her.



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08 Sep 2005, 10:12 pm

I did finally get into AP Calculus and Spanish in my senior year, I did pretty badly on the actual APs though. I kind of feel like I should have been in honors earlier for a lot of subjects (like math) and I was in honors math my freshman year but I was dropped out of that program; I think partly because I had some attention problems (due to raging hormones with no where to go) and partly due to my math teacher disliking me.

I don't think you should put too much stock into these things: One of the angriest moments I had in high school was when someone in the Honors level English course saw me reading "Of Mice and Men" and said "My God you're actually reading that thing??" :evil: :evil: :evil:

It has little to do with actual ability and more to do with how well you can work the system.

Edit: It wasn't Of Mice and Men it was "The Grapes of Wrath" Darn me and my fuzzy memory.



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09 Sep 2005, 1:42 pm

AbominableSnoCone wrote:
It has little to do with actual ability and more to do with how well you can work the system.


Couldn't have said it better myself. English teachers grade on what they want to hear, not what you say. If you learn to write what they want to hear and supress your own opinions and thoughts, then it is very easy to suceed in English. ;)

Honors classes can be a good thing, if the system is done well, which it rarely is. I've been fairly spoiled in my recent education by good honors classes with exceptional teachers, for the most part.


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09 Sep 2005, 2:06 pm

I took all the "challenge" (as opposed to normal or remedial) English classes; I was in the mathematics track right below the most advanced one (i.e., I started with Algebra I as a freshman and ended with precalculus as a senior; others started with geometry and ended with calculus). I took College American History for dual credit (counted as American History Before 1865 and American History After 1865 in college). I also took Physics I (counted as General Physics I, not calculus based, which means it does not suffice for engineering or computer science majors). I also took French III and IV, which count as French I and II at college. I also took college composition for dual credit, which counts as a freshman composition class in college.

I basically took the "college prep" track of classes at my high school.



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09 Sep 2005, 4:47 pm

Namiko wrote:
[color=darkblue]Couldn't have said it better myself. English teachers grade on what they want to hear, not what you say. If you learn to write what they want to hear and supress your own opinions and thoughts, then it is very easy to suceed in English. ;)


That is so true. In my 11th grade english class, I did the first few big projects my way. I got B's and C's. Then I did another project and I parroted her phrasing and word choice. I got an A on that one.

This is also the same beeyatch who called me "militant" on several occasions because I spoke my mind and didn't conform. :roll:



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09 Sep 2005, 5:41 pm

fahreeq wrote:
Namiko wrote:
Couldn't have said it better myself. English teachers grade on what they want to hear, not what you say. If you learn to write what they want to hear and supress your own opinions and thoughts, then it is very easy to suceed in English. ;)


That is so true. In my 11th grade english class, I did the first few big projects my way. I got B's and C's. Then I did another project and I parroted her phrasing and word choice. I got an A on that one.

This is also the same beeyatch who called me "militant" on several occasions because I spoke my mind and didn't conform. :roll:


I think all of us have problems with conformity. ;) That alone has gotten me into so much trouble with various teachers in the past, well, that and being insistent upon what I can and cannot do.... but that's a whole other story.


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11 Sep 2005, 8:18 am

i never had a problem with teachers wanting me to parrot back their opinions. maybe i had better English teachers than most, or maybe i just never disagreed with them enough for it to be an issue. of course, sophomore and junior year i caught a lot of flak from my peers because i was "just like" our English teacher (the same woman taught level 1 sophomore English and AP English 11). i didn't really care, though, i thought she was amazing.

my high school was very strange in course layout: we had "level 1" and "level 2" courses. Level 1 courses were supposed to be like honors, and level 2 supposed to be regular, but it hardly turned out like that. You basically had to be a complete numbskull to get landed in level 2, and as a result i was often frustrated in my first two years of high school because people who were frelling idiots were wasting my classtime.

junior and senior year i was eligible for Advanced Placement courses, which was a lot more enjoyable for me. i took AP European History, AP French, AP English (two years) and AP Biology (though not of choice; nothing else would fit in my schedule that year and i needed a science.) it seems i am terrible in the stereotypical Aspie interests of science and maths and such.

going back further to elementary school, i was considered very bright and put in the gifted program almost as soon as i started school. unfortunately, it was a rather shabby program--instead of doing the same things we were doing in class but more in depth, we studied things that had NO connection to anything else. (ie, the rainforest, China, comic strips, Shakespeare...we at least got to pick what we studied within those categories but it honestly just upset me.) the teacher also expected college-level work out of elementary school children which i think is just a bit much, no matter how bright the kid is! i remember being kept in from lunch and recess because i didn't take notes the way the teacher liked.



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18 Mar 2007, 7:06 am

The middle school I went to didn't have honors classes; more advanced students would take the next year's up class (i.e. 7th graders take 8th grade class, etc.) but that was only for math and science. I didn't do very well in math, partially because I have trouble with math and spatial things, and partially because my teacher wasn't that great, and the school itself wasn't all that special, either.

In high school, I've only taken 1 AP Course--AP European History--without my mother's consent (even though I told her and she signed the paper, but then later complained that I changed it without her knowing.) I got a D in the class because the workload was too much (I was in 10th grade then, but I could get a better grade now that I'm a senior), the textbook was a college sophomore's level book, which I could read, but it was just too tedious, and I had a disliking of history at that time. It was simply the only college-level course being offered. I've taken honors Science, English, History, and Government, and I'm taking honors Humanities and honors Economics. I've also taken Spanish II Accelerated and Symphonic Band.

I appealed to get into Special Education classes at my school, or at least have some special arrangement with my teachers or something (I get a lot of headaches and stuff in school) but they refused me, and tried to convince me that I don't actually have AS; I'm just trying to fit in somewhere. Yeah, right.



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19 Mar 2007, 9:29 pm

nocturnalowl wrote:
How many of you had or are taking advanced courses in middle or HS?


I take almost every advanced course I can. I'm in the advanced math and science classes, and as a sophmore (10th grade) I'm in AP ENglish 11 (Advanced Placement junior English).

I don't talk in any of the classes, except for the AP class (the teacher is very cool and non-conformist) because I know that I will be expected to tell them what they want to hear. Oh, that used to get me in trouble... :) I'm getting better at it now.


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20 Mar 2007, 2:55 am

Aye. Pretty much 'Honors' classes throughout, though in HS I found that they kept dropping me or picking me back up. I had a horrible time whenever I had to deal with the regents (essentially college bound) classes. They just were so boring. Also was in a talented and gifted program, which
was pretty cool, although we didn't do anything - just goofed off most of the time.



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20 Mar 2007, 5:17 am

Advanced in Maths 'cause that's the only class that has an advanced course.
Doing very well with it too.