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09 May 2018, 11:01 am

My point is, I don't believe they would release the records of person A to person B. Why would they? And if its this easy for person B to get the records, why cant AssP simply ask for them himself?


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09 May 2018, 11:02 am

Also, I will say this--learning to tie a tie was very hard for me, and I still struggle with it. I keep my ties tied, and simply adjust the knot when I put them on.


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09 May 2018, 11:36 am

RainbowUnion wrote:
My point is, I don't believe they would release the records of person A to person B. Why would they? And if its this easy for person B to get the records, why cant AssP simply ask for them himself?


That's what I was saying, he has to submit a release form with his signature. The only person B they might send them to is his lawyer. But that too would probably need a release form with a signature.

He says he did ask for them in 1992 and the HS said they were lost. The college said they never got them. The records are all messed up. The whole thing blew up in his face. I mean I guess that's it. It's very hard to read his posts with all the long drawn out drama and all the emoticons etc.



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09 May 2018, 11:39 am

EzraS wrote:
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My point is, I don't believe they would release the records of person A to person B. Why would they? And if its this easy for person B to get the records, why cant AssP simply ask for them himself?


That's what I was saying, he has to submit a release form with his signature. The only person B they might send them to is his lawyer. He says he did ask for them and according to him the HS said they were lost. The college said they never got them. The records are all messed up. The whole thing blew up in his face.


High schools don't destroy student records of past students who may still be alive. With computers its easier than ever to archive them.


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09 May 2018, 11:40 am

He would probably have to give a notarized letter to a person acting on his behalf. That person would probably have to fax that letter to whoever is issuing the transcripts.

Or.....he should (preferably) do it himself.



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09 May 2018, 11:49 am

RainbowUnion wrote:
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RainbowUnion wrote:
My point is, I don't believe they would release the records of person A to person B. Why would they? And if its this easy for person B to get the records, why cant AssP simply ask for them himself?


That's what I was saying, he has to submit a release form with his signature. The only person B they might send them to is his lawyer. He says he did ask for them and according to him the HS said they were lost. The college said they never got them. The records are all messed up. The whole thing blew up in his face.


High schools don't destroy student records of past students who may still be alive. With computers its easier than ever to archive them.


From what I read some records are destroyed after a person turns 25, but not high school transcripts. Transcripts from his time of graduation would likely be stored on microfiche film strip with a zillion other people's transcripts.



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09 May 2018, 11:51 am

You should probably focus on getting some kind of a at least semi-stable living situation, so you don't have to shuffle around the streets moving from shelter to shelter, getting your stuff stolen or thrown away all the time. That would probably be a lot more helpful for you than trying to get into college.

In your position the only thing you are likely to get from attending college is massive debt you'll never be able to pay off.

I understand you are on SSI or SSDI? Why don't you apply for some subsidized housing or something where you could have help affording a place to live. Of course you would have to go to whatever human services building is closest to where you are to inquire and find out more...at the very least they could probably point you in the right direction.

I mean there could be more help for your health problems and conditions you're missing out on because you seem to have an apprehension towards looking into programs that help disabled and poor people.


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09 May 2018, 12:01 pm

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He would probably have to give a notarized letter to a person acting on his behalf. That person would probably have to fax that letter to whoever is issuing the transcripts.

Or.....he should (preferably) do it himself.


No one here is going to want to get involved with all that, nor should they. It crosses the barrier of privacy and means getting personally involved in someone else's personal business/problems.



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09 May 2018, 12:02 pm

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kraftiekortie wrote:
He would probably have to give a notarized letter to a person acting on his behalf. That person would probably have to fax that letter to whoever is issuing the transcripts.

Or.....he should (preferably) do it himself.


No one here is going to want to get involved with all that. It crosses the barrier of privacy and means getting personally involved in someone else's personal business.


Very correct and well stated.


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09 May 2018, 12:15 pm

This is all just academic though. It's just more circular drama that's gone on here for years. There's several other long I wanna go to uni threads that went nowhere. There's never been an actual resolution in any of all of ASS-P'S help me threads that I know of. After several pages he just drops it. And then starts it back up again in a new thread sometime later.



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09 May 2018, 12:18 pm

Its an autistic obsession, plain and simple, made worse by the fact that there is almost certainly no way he can actually do it.

From what I've seen, his expectation is that other people in his life will do all of these things for him. In his physical, day to day existence, there is likely no one who will do these things for him--that's not the job of social workers and etc. So he tries to get help with it here.


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09 May 2018, 12:19 pm

I just wish he could call his high school, speak to the office---who would refer him to the department dealing with school records.

They'd probably ask him to fax over his ID, or to scan his ID, then email it.

Many colleges actually are able to get the transcripts without the student doing anything at all.

I feel like he's capable of calming down for a few minutes to make the call, and to not get frustrated.



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09 May 2018, 12:25 pm

I feel he can handle college academically.

It would be more difficult for him to handle college logistically (e.g., time management, registering for courses, dealing with the professors, etc.)



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09 May 2018, 12:28 pm

Either the HS or the board of education. Do you know what state he graduated in?



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09 May 2018, 12:31 pm

But to what end? Given what this poster has told us all about himself and his situation...do you really think trying to get into college would be the best choice? I still say the best bet would be if he would look into help with housing and such contact the human resources and see what he can do to get off the streets.

Basically college seems like an extremely impractical choice for this individual, that will likely only cause them massive debt.


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09 May 2018, 12:32 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
I feel he can handle college academically.

It would be more difficult for him to handle college logistically (e.g., time management, registering for courses, dealing with the professors, etc.)


Yes to all of this.

If he wants a degree so he can get a job and not end his life as a homeless person, I hate to say it but I don't think there is much chance of that. I read somewhere that even this late in life, he has never held a job. Who would hire him, even with a diploma? How would he handle a job interview? I know I hate them. Without transport or mobility, how would he get himself there?

No, none of this is his fault, but it is still reality.


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