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zeldapsychology
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18 Jun 2009, 9:17 pm

I was interested as a child and dad said Neuroscience/anything Psychology based are stuff I probably couldn't do. :-)

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19 Jun 2009, 12:41 am

Can you argue well?
If your good at that and can remember rules & memorise books you should be fine.
But you have to have self confidence to stand up and question people.

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19 Jun 2009, 7:46 am

I did that path. By the time I finished school, I detested everything the legal institutions stand for.

The problem with the actual practice of law is the saying, "You gotta eat a lot of s**t sandwiches."

As a lawyer, it's all about billable hours. That means finding and keeping clients you can bill for work regularly who WILL pay their bills on time. The work outside your practice can be very political, and you will have no ability to do anything about it.

If you are in it to make money, you might adapt well. If you are in it to "make a difference," you will find it a largely empty experience.

Unless you grow up in a family of lawyers, you really can never know what you are getting into by pursuing the career.

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19 Jun 2009, 9:07 am

Well on the memorizing books stuff I do GREAT! (I stayed up 18hrs. reading Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows) LOL! and remember the books among others I've read in life very well. :-) I'm not sure about arguing I tend to run from an argument against my family. :-) I'm so confused I don't know what I want to do with my life!! :-)

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21 Jun 2009, 9:24 am

I'm very into law and legal procedure. Might have something to do with the family, mum did paralegal work, father was a cop, and grandmother was a well respected superior court judge in cali.

But, I do it more as hobby, legal research and whatnot. I'm helping mum right now, she's being sued by the lady that hit her, the lady says mum hit her. Oh well, traffic cams.

I don't know if I could do it as a career though, to many people who can be hurt. Taking sides isn't something that everyone can do. At some point you feel for the other person, and start to side with them.

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21 Jun 2009, 11:42 am

People have always said that I should be a lawyer because of my ability to argue, and I've had a very strong interest in law as of lately. The problem I have, however, is this: Lawyers must set aside their morals in order to uphold the law. This is especially true in criminal law, though I imagine it's somewhat less so for DAs.

I think my views on being a lawyer can best be summed up by this quote, from The Practice:

Eleanor Frutt wrote:

Congratulations, Rebecca, you're a member of the club. You just earned the privilege to distort and manipulate the most noble of all judicial systems. The privilege of delivering opening statements promising evidence and witnesses you know you don't really have. And you're going to get to warn all your clients against telling the truth, so you'll be able to put them on the stand later to commit their perjury without really exposing yourself in the process. Oh, and um, you'll get to beat up on a bunch of rape victims at probable cause hearings, scaring them off from testifying at trial. And you'll get to buy lots of little presents for all the clerks, so they might schedule all of your trials on Fridays, when the judges are in great moods just before they hit the road to Cape Cod. But, uh, best of all, you're gonna have the joy of securing the freedom of all your guilty clients, and you'll never have to see them again until they murder or rape the next person, but that usually takes about two, three weeks, so... Congratulations, Rebecca. You're a lawyer.

Now, this deals with criminal defense, and it's somewhat a dimmer view than I have. I do feel roughly the same about civil law and criminal prosecution.

Bottom line: The only reason I'd get a law degree is to get into politics. I greatly respect those who can do what lawyers need to do, but I could never do it myself.

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21 Jun 2009, 6:52 pm

I am.I just finished my first year of paralegal studies.I have one more year left, then I will have my diploma.
I hope to one day move on to law school and get a law degree.

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21 Jun 2009, 11:52 pm

zeldapsychology wrote:

I was interested as a child and dad said Neuroscience/anything Psychology based are stuff I probably couldn't do. :-)

Is it because your asperger, that your dad think you cant't do what is related to neuroscience and psychology?

If that the case, I don't think he should be an issue. In some way I'm better that my youngest NT brother to understand some elements of the human behavior, propably because I spent a lot of time trying to make sense of it. (Of course, he's don't prevent me for still getting social difficulty)
Psychology is a rationnal analysis of the human behavior, which mean the lack empathy and of "theory of mind"(a instintive thing) don't really handicap you, as long as you're smart. Even more so the neurosciences.
By the way, a asperger neuroscientific will be a great asset for understanding what going on in we're brains. You will know where to look.

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I think my views on being a lawyer can best be summed up by this quote, from The Practice:

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Eleanor Frutt wrote:
Congratulations, Rebecca, you're a member of the club. You just earned the privilege to distort and manipulate the most noble of all judicial systems. The privilege of delivering opening statements promising evidence and witnesses you know you don't really have. And you're going to get to warn all your clients against telling the truth, so you'll be able to put them on the stand later to commit their perjury without really exposing yourself in the process. Oh, and um, you'll get to beat up on a bunch of rape victims at probable cause hearings, scaring them off from testifying at trial. And you'll get to buy lots of little presents for all the clerks, so they might schedule all of your trials on Fridays, when the judges are in great moods just before they hit the road to Cape Cod. But, uh, best of all, you're gonna have the joy of securing the freedom of all your guilty clients, and you'll never have to see them again until they murder or rape the next person, but that usually takes about two, three weeks, so... Congratulations, Rebecca. You're a lawyer.

Well, it's true that in fiction advocates are quite despicable, but what about in real life? Of course, there are some who are greedy and dishonnest. But, maybe there some who are really good and honest person who really try their best to make the justice system in the good direction?

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22 Jun 2009, 9:47 am

I wish I'd taken Law as an AS Level at my school.

I am however going to the courts to sit in (as a random public member, not being charged with anything) and just going to listen to some cases, in a nutshell.

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22 Jun 2009, 2:12 pm

Tollorin wrote:

As I said before, it really is a dimmer view of the law than I have. Still, a lawyer is required (by law) to defend their client. All too often, this would involve things such as attempting to exclude evidence that proves their client is guilty/in the wrong. Moreover, even if they know that, morally, they should not be defending their client, they still must do so. Not something I could do.

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28 Jun 2009, 10:15 pm

zeldapsychology wrote:

I was interested as a child and dad said Neuroscience/anything Psychology based are stuff I probably couldn't do. :-)

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I certainly am interested! I believe you could do it. I have worked in law offices and OCD runs rampant amongst its workers.. as a matter of fact, attention to small detail is very very honored in that profession.. it is a necessity. I think you would excel at it. The sensory overload caused me problems in the busy hectic offices, but may not for everyone.

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03 Jul 2009, 7:39 am

Plus, law school is so stressful, can you feel the heat?

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03 Jul 2009, 8:08 am

ruennsheng wrote:

Plus, law school is so stressful, can you feel the heat?

Yes. You can.

I did well by changing my attitude towards law school, but I still wound up with anxiety attacks in my last semester when I was approaching graduation and knew I'd have to find a real job.

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04 Jul 2009, 10:38 am

Then focus on school then... GPA looks and is ore important than any other thing when you are still in law school, I think.

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04 Jul 2009, 12:08 pm

ruennsheng wrote:

Then focus on school then... GPA looks and is ore important than any other thing when you are still in law school, I think.

Not really.

After law school, nobody cares about your GPA after you get your first job....they will look at your professional record. All GPA says is that you knew how to study to max a professor's test. Some of the best litigators in America were average law school students.

The fact is that a law student needs to be focused on finding his/her first job from day one of law school. Once they start working, the rest will come fairly easy if they can do the job, but getting that first job can be the hardest hurdle, and sadly, most firms want new people to be workhorses...lots of hours and work, to prove themselves.

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04 Jul 2009, 10:02 pm

Nevertheless, I believe you can do it!! ! Jst give in your best

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