Will the third time really be the charm?

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21 Sep 2009, 2:57 pm

So as I mentioned on my eligible oddbods reply I'm going back to school through an Ontario government bursury program called second career. I have very mixed emotions about it because of some preoconceived notions I have regarding my academic history.

The first thing is I'm happy because just this morning I received acceptance from one of the campuses(ie I applied to five different campuses of four different schools ), however, I'm kind of fearful that I may have to go the route of going away for school and staying in on- or off-campus residence which I feel is slightly more realistic than the local campuses I've applied too because to get to either of the three campuses of the two local schools would end up costing me $100-$300/month(speculatively speaking) on top the $100/month my TTC Metropass already does and I'd have to take up to four or five different routes within up to three different municipal/regional transit lines or a cobination of up to two municipal/regional transit lines and GO(Government of Ontario) transit to get to, whereas I know(at least to Fleming, which is the school I've already received my acceptance package from) even if I came home every single weekend of the month It would end up only setting me back an additional $95-100 a month for the four round trip Greyhound tickets(with the student discount of course) on top of my Metropass. The issue here isn't the cost so much as that it would most likely be out of pocket because even though the bursary provides a personal expense allotment, transportation is not included.

Another apprehension I have is that I won't succeed. A big part of this is that I've already flunked out of two other diplomas but it goes further back. I have a suspision(and this is I realize a stertch and quite a long ways back to equate to my current uncertainty but), at the end of my eighth grade year I overheard my mother on the phone with whom I can only guess was either the principal or vice principal of my elementary school(BTW any M.A.P.S. Eagles (Class of '99) in the house?) and they were discussing I think my attending school in the summer session for math but it was across town and my mother had said she wasn't sure she'd be well enough to drive me each day(she had just begun LTD on account of her MS) so basically, based on what I overheard of my mother's end, I can only summise that I was pushed through because she wouldn't have been able to get me to/from school each day. I also have a strong suspicion that this occurred as well, with a fair number of my senior level courses in secondary school as it is frowned upon for a student to be failed. Another reason I don't see myself succeeding is that I can't wirte essays after like seven years of high school(pathetic huh?). To expand on this I don't mean that I actually can't, it's moreso that I'm not confident in my ability to construct a coherent paper. Another thing is my habits when it comes to study and homework, I'm often diligent for the first couple weeks then I taper off and don't do a thing and I don't know why, though my mother has speculated, that, in her opinion, the reason I haven't succeeded is because I'll get overwhelmed with the workload and shut down.

Another big detourrent to my potential success is my pride when it comes to asking for help. As far as asking for help in the form of a disability services accommodation for tests, I don't have an issue with asking for that, but when it comes to the small day to day things like asking the prof for calrification on or some sort of aid with an assignment question or lecture concept, I don't like to, because it makes me feel about two inches tall and like I'm intellectually inferior to my classmates be they NT, learning disabled or developmentally/physically disabled. It feels like if they don't need the clarification/help/extra help, then why should I, and I've always hated that feeling , going back to when I was misdiagnosed as having NLD, because I know it's strictly pride driven. I know a lot of you will think to yourselves and/or respond with a comment to the extent of "get over yourself," but look at it from my perspective, what if as far as you saw and/or knew none of your coursemates needed help from the professor? How would that make you feel about having to ask for it yourself?

The only other bursary related issue I have is that if I were to go to one of the two campuses where I'd be in "res," including the yearly res, tuition, book/material and miscellaeous fees I couldn't exceed $28,000 as that is the value of the bursary and it has to cover me for a two year term.

So comments, observations, feel free to make them but please leave deconstructive phrasings at the door. Thank you.

Meghan


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22 Sep 2009, 12:25 am

Hello, fellow GTAer: I know exactly what you're going through, as a good friend of mine is partaking in the Second Career Bursary Program as well.


The way this bursary is supposed to work is that the government will pay your tuition, as well as all your living expenses for the time you are in school: which is supposed to include transportation expenses. My friend has all of this covered: including a transportation credit that entitles him to a Metropass each month. I'm not sure why your transportation expenses aren't covered in your bursary, but I suggest maybe paying for them through your personal expense allotment, especially if you'll be living at home and won't have to buy your own personal necessities.

During the two programs you were in before, did you stay at home or live in residence? If you lived away from home, consider staying at home and commuting, as it may improve your work ethic and you'll have friends and family helping you to keep on track. Also, it will save you a ton of money in regards to the bursary. I had a friend with AS who moved away for university who ended up getting totally distracted as there was no one there to remind her to do her homework, etc. She moved back to her hometown university with her family and is now doing great academically.

Which programs have you applied to and where? Most of the programs covered by this bursary are math, trades and technology oriented: meaning little to no essays will be required of you. These programs are more reliant on practical and hands-on work which I'm sure is more of your thing. I wouldn't worry about your writing skills too much.

Don't feel bad about asking for help. Contrary to what you might think EVERYONE does it...even me, and I'm an "A" student. It doesn't make one intellectually inferior or anything, it just often means it was the professor who was being unclear. Profs often have office hours after class which allow people to see them discreetly: make use of them. Most give out their emails too: a good way of communicating if face to face is intimidating for you.

Also, try to start your session with a positive attitude...so try not to be so hard on yourself. The third time will be the charm only if you make it to be.

Hope this helps :D


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22 Sep 2009, 1:08 am

anneurysm wrote:
Hello, fellow GTAer: I know exactly what you're going through, as a good friend of mine is partaking in the Second Career Bursary Program as well.


The way this bursary is supposed to work is that the government will pay your tuition, as well as all your living expenses for the time you are in school: which is supposed to include transportation expenses. My friend has all of this covered: including a transportation credit that entitles him to a Metropass each month. I'm not sure why your transportation expenses aren't covered in your bursary, but I suggest maybe paying for them through your personal expense allotment, especially if you'll be living at home and won't have to buy your own personal necessities.

During the two programs you were in before, did you stay at home or live in residence? If you lived away from home, consider staying at home and commuting, as it may improve your work ethic and you'll have friends and family helping you to keep on track. Also, it will save you a ton of money in regards to the bursary. I had a friend with AS who moved away for university who ended up getting totally distracted as there was no one there to remind her to do her homework, etc. She moved back to her hometown university with her family and is now doing great academically.

Which programs have you applied to and where? Most of the programs covered by this bursary are math, trades and technology oriented: meaning little to no essays will be required of you. These programs are more reliant on practical and hands-on work which I'm sure is more of your thing. I wouldn't worry about your writing skills too much.

Don't feel bad about asking for help. Contrary to what you might think EVERYONE does it...even me, and I'm an "A" student. It doesn't make one intellectually inferior or anything, it just often means it was the professor who was being unclear. Profs often have office hours after class which allow people to see them discreetly: make use of them. Most give out their emails too: a good way of communicating if face to face is intimidating for you.

Also, try to start your session with a positive attitude...so try not to be so hard on yourself. The third time will be the charm only if you make it to be.

Hope this helps :D


It does help somewhat but the thing is I'm applying for the bursury theough a company funded by Employment Ontario called Employment Access, which helps people with disabilities find work and my case manager has told me that she doesn't think the bursury would cover transport. I've applied for January start of Social Worker/Social Service Worker at Sheridan(both the Davis Campus - Brampton and Trafalgar campus - Oakville, Progress campus of Centennial, Peterborough for Fleming and Orillia campus of Georgian, so foreseeably I'd have to move into res(Fleming) or off-campus housing(Georgian), if the case were I went away. The last two diplomas I attempted were both at Humber college(Lakeshore) but I couldn't apply for this particular course with them as the school only offers september intake, or at least that's all that was showing on OCAS's site when I applied two weeks ago, and I was instructed by my case manager to apply for Jan 2010 start date. I'm actually dead centre between both campuses for Humber so I did actually live at home and commute. If I get accepted into Sheridan, I'm hoping, but doubting the outcame will occur as this campus was already waitlisted for January, to be going to Davis as I can commute there via a GO bus and one Brampton transit vehicle, whereas for Trafalgar I'd have to take Toronto, Mississauga and Oakville transits(4 vehicles altogether, and that's assuming I don't have to transfer between routes once I'm on Oakville transit) just to get there. And as for progress campus every morning I'd have to TTC it all the way out to Kennedy alone before I could even get what ever TTC route or GO vehicle I'd need to, to get out there from that station.

As for the bit of the expense coverage the cover they course as long as it does not exceed three years duration(I know that because I called a little while ago to see if the bylaw where schools can allow a disabled student to take up to double the slated length of a program to complete their studies, would interfere with eligibility for the bursury and they said the bursiry had just been alterted to cover three years of studies) and your expenses can't exceed $28, 000 over the entire duration of your program(unfortunately :| ).


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