Private Special one on one schools Mystery?

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Special Ed at age 4-6?
Yes 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
Yes 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
No 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
No 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
Don't know 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Don't know 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Could care less 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Could care less 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Speech and Hearing Loss between age 4-6? 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
Speech and Hearing Loss between age 4-6? 17%  17%  [ 2 ]
Yes 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Yes 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Don't Know 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Don't Know 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Could Care less 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Could Care less 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Total votes : 12

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16 May 2005, 11:21 pm

1)...The Question?

"What can you input about this Special Ed to
Mainstream Mystery?"

2)....Statements by Ghosthunter!

My Grandmother said I was in a EasterSeals
(I have no knowledge of this organization)
special one on one school at age 4-5, to learn
to speak(I didn't, deaf and silent autistic world).

Here is what I have dug up so far?

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I was in a Special Ed high school for two and a
half years. I came to hate it becasue it was a
joke academically and the people there weren't
any more accepting than in a normal school.
It think the number of jerks was even higher,
becasue most of the students there just didn't
want to learn and ahd already given up on school.
And even though it was a special ed school, they
did nothing to help me with my difficulties in
making friends and talking to people! I eventually
got fed up with it and went back to high school,
against the wishes of those fools at the special ed
school. I actually did pretty well at high school.
I actually made friends and established myself
somewhat as a know-it-all, which for some reason
has never gotten me in too much trouble. It was
hard dealing with the idiocy of the school, but
part of that problem was the fact that the school
was run by a group of idiots with no real connection
to what was really happening in the school.

So as a result, I now think that mainstreaming is
good for Aspies. It's hard, yes, but the oppurtunites
are much better. And, (I honestly never thought I
would say this seriously), it does get somewhat better
in high school; the fragmentaion of students based on
individual interests helps a lot, although the maturity
of the student body is somewhat questionable at
times. But even then, there are always a few exceptional
people there.


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Oh my. I was mixed around so much during
grades 6-12 it probably altered my road to
academic success

5th grade: put in advance class, struggled
heavily but still went to middle school (6th,
7th and 8th grades) on regular courses.

I was kept in speech therapy courses until 10th
grade but I don't think I really learned anything.

6th grade: sent to regular math, but placement
was so high I was sent to accelerated math levels.
Started well but self-esteem and emotions brought
me back down to earth that I was demoted at the
2nd semester. I still struggled early on but I passed
easily. I flunked science, I nearly flunked guidance
class, almost flunked social studies, and language.
Those classes were mainstreamed.
6th grade was a living hell academically and
socially (teasing, bullying, and being singled out)

7th grade: all mainstream courses. Did a mediocre
job in language and social studies, okay in electives
(drafting/art), I did choose the former but placed in
the latter. Science started off rocky but I did pass
even though I felt uncomfortable there. Phys Ed.
wasn't too great, not as comfortable as in 6th grade
and I ended up with a C or something compared to
a A or B in 6th. I frequently was sent to spec. ed.
classes for half a period for assistance, keeping an
eye on me and of course evaluate me for placement.
Math was boring at first, mainstream, because I
learned absolutely nothing until later in the second
semester. Did I ever mention I missed nearly two
weeks of school due to pneumonia? Yep, on my
B-Day. 2 weeks but I improved during spring break
and returned following the days off.

8th grade: No electives (they were dropped),
Language I was put in a Sp. Ed class but I was
so high that I was later sent to an ACCELERATED
class. Then BAM! No book reports, no essays, just
basic curriculum and then I received a D. I had no
socializing capabilities, that is what doomed me.
PE I did okay. Social studies I did good, showed
some socializing weaknesses but self-esteem kept
me going. Science I started strong but it got difficult
so I went from a 1st semester A to a 2nd semester
C. Math, I was put in pre-algebra which I did well in.
I was recommended to move up to Algebra but I
didn't want to attempt accelerated courses there agian,
I felt the class style was meant more for the
academically competitive students, I didn't want to fall
apart agian.

I promoted out of middle school of course and
THANK GOD because those days really sucked.

9th grade: All mainstream courses. I struggled in
English big time. I stayed in the course but I was
put into Guided study Spec. Ed. to give me extra help.
I feel I got lucky in that course.
History: I knew the stuff, I had a B most of the way,
but I struggled in expressing things right and didn't
know how to address the problem.
Math: Algebra, piece of cake.
Science: Did well, but I don't remember a darn
thing anymore.
PE: standard PE.
Spanish: knew the stuff, but struggled maintaining
the assignments, aka homework. Homework was a
nervous thing for me to do. I was shy to do my
homework at home, I don't know why.

10th grade: HELL, I was placed in ADVANCED history
and English until I checked out on time, they looked
too complicated. I eventualy flunked mainstream
Engllish first semester, I had to drop out. I flunked
Geometry, had to drop out. I flunked Biology, had to
drop out. Struggled at first with history but I caught up
and maintained a good grade there for the whole
year. Spanish I did okay (B), PE I did for semester
2 which was pretty basic.
2nd semester I took no math, was sent down to
Sp. Ed. English and still showed some weaknesses. I
passed though. I took Geo. in summer school and passed
so I had caught up in math.

11th grade: the better year, I had been given my
AS diagnosis by now, I didn't tell the school yet but
it was better. Along with my Prozac and Buspirone
(anti-anxiety).
Year 2 algebra: passed
History: passed
sp ed english: passed (did okay)
spanish (getting more advanced): passed

Took trig and pre-calculus in summer school, phew
it was tough but i passed.

12th grade: when I finally explained my AS to
Spec Ed. teachers. I never mentioned it to the rest
of the school. I nearly fell down hill again here.

English mainstream: tough but I had a C (Eng. grades
below Cs were failing grades). Second semester I was
sent down to Spec. Ed. again (same old, same old)
Math: Calculus, I was placed with advanced students
except for maybe a couple mates. I started off okay
but then the logics, explanations, and group work
brought me down. I nearly flunked the second semester
but I was allowed to stay and be given elective credit
since my math req. were reached.
Spanish: Advanced class. Made up mostly of advanced
students, basic structure I was good at, but reports,
oral exams and essays made it tough for me. It felt like
an honors Eng. class there. I stayed and was given
elective credit.
Civics/Gov't: looked easy but I ended up with a D.
Econ: looked dull and boring, started off sloppy and
ended up in Sp Ed. level, I should've stayed at the
main level though.
Biology: A little easier this time but still had a few
problems. 1st semester okay, 2nd semester a little off.
I missed a week in the spring to anxiety bouts caused
by leaving and returning to my medications.

I graduated HS, felt relieved but sad, I wish I could've
done better (academically and socially)

Comm. College

I tried for a semester but it is tough. I qualify as a
Disabled Student so I do have opportunities to gain
extra help. I don't know when I want to try agian but
it would be good if I can.

So I have been on all academic levels in my
K-12 days (Special Ed., mainstream, and advanced).


I was really held back a lot in Special Ed. because the
curriculum there was basic stuff I knew already.
Because my socializing needs weren't met, I couldn't
go back to the mainstream courses. So therefore I
didn't see much improvement in English courses and
socializing skills.Back to top


Then she explained I was mainstreamed by age 6,
and was always lagging behind classes and hated
homework. She also said that this would persist
until I left highschool. I later got my G.E.D at
31 through Pictorially learning, then book learning.
(Self-Motivated Study in phases).

She would also say I was doing bad enough I was
in special ed for 1 year(a class with Mongoloids?
Autistics, slow developers) and Slid downhill
again. I was returned to mainstream by age 7
and that will be until grade 11.

Hmmm? Mongoloids? I really don't know anything
about this scenerio since I had to ask!! !! !! !.

Hmmm? Any background information similar to this
can help give me perspective!

3)...The Question Repeated.....!

"What can you input about this Special Ed to Mainstream
Mystery?"

 



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16 May 2005, 11:35 pm

I've never heard the term Mongoloid before this either... I think it's really old-fashioned slang.

Wikipedia.org wrote:
Since people with the disability Down syndrome have some superficial Mongoloid (East Asian or Native American) facial features, the term "Mongoloid" was once also used as a synonym for "retarded". This usage, once neutral, is now considered offensive.



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16 May 2005, 11:46 pm

Well, I've heard the term Mongoloid but not for 25+ years. It does mean having Downs. I don't know if it was even slang. When I worked in the hospital that was the actaual diagnoises on patient charts.

GH,
I think you said you were in your late 30s? Special ed is way broader now but back then it really was only for deaf, blind, or mentally retarded children. Obviously you are none of those things but they just didn't have good services then.

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16 May 2005, 11:49 pm

I am also ferreting out information on
people who may had deafness and
then restored hearing, then language
skills redevelopment. Their are school
like "EasterSeals"? and what do these
people remember.

I have a combination:
Autism(1 year absense from Mainstream)
Substancial(2+ years absense from Mainstream)
and this is based on my academic research.


1)....Things they may remember?
2)....Techniques used to allow learning?
3)....Type of Students they may remember?

Hmmmmmm? :?
Ghosthunter

P.S....Thanks for responding Pyraxis! I left you a
answer in the my "Season's Poem" post today.



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16 May 2005, 11:54 pm

In Anthropology, Mongoloid also refers to the anatomic characteristics of the north central Asian races.



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16 May 2005, 11:55 pm

I already saw it, Ghosthunter. Thank you. Don't think I've forgotten your messages. I'm just thinking carefully before I reply.

I'm not too familiar with special ed. At the school I went to, kindergarten to grade 8, all special ed kids were mainstreamed, either with a teacher's aide with them all the time, or a small amount of time in a resource room for one-on-one help. I remember there was one blind and deaf girl and several kids with various degrees of mental retardation (including Down's Syndrome), but I was too young to know or care about the official names for their issues. This was in Winnipeg, Canada between 1988 and 1998, in a fairly progressive and experimental school district.



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16 May 2005, 11:56 pm

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Well, I've heard the term Mongoloid but
not for 30+ years. It does mean having Downs.

GH,
I think you said you were in your late 30s?
Special ed is way broader now but back then
it really was only for deaf, blind, or mentally
retarded children. Obviously you are none of
those things but they just didn't have good
services then.

BeeBee


Thankyou for this part of the mystery. I am piecing
together facts by facts by topic by topic. I am
completely clueless :oops: about where to start.
My Grandmother didn't remeber the names of the
schools other than marin county and San Rafeal,
and ?EasterSeal?????

Hmmmmm :roll:



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17 May 2005, 12:03 am

I know Easter Seals currently run what they call "Easter Seals Child Development Centers." Maybe this is what your GM was talking about? The only thing I know about them is that they exist.

You might be able to contact Easter Seals and ask them directly if they ran a program in marin county or San Rafeal. They probably don't have the records anymore but they might....they might be able to tell you about the program more?

I don't know.



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Sean wrote:
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In Anthropology, Mongoloid also refers to the
anatomic characteristics of the north central
Asian races.


Thankyou very much Sean! All information is
helpful and I am glad to see your feedback.

Most Sincerely,
Ghosthunter

P.S....I hope all is well for you. I hope you
didn't take offense to my "AS & Lurkers" comments.
I just wanted to caution people that bloodletting
and detoxing to allow growth requires steps.
Thanks for understanding!



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17 May 2005, 12:07 am

BeeBee wrote:
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I know Easter Seals currently run what they
call "Easter Seals Child Development Centers."
Maybe this is what your GM was talking about?
The only thing I know about them is that they exist.

You might be able to contact Easter Seals and ask
them directly if they ran a program in marin county
or San Rafeal. They probably don't have the records
anymore but they might....they might be able to tell
you about the program more?

I don't know.


As I told Sean, Any information and personal
experience helps! Thank you BeeBee!

Most Sincerely,
Ghosthunter



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17 May 2005, 12:29 am

my parents put me in some special class when i was about 3 i guess, 'cause i wouldn't talk a whole lot..not till i was in elementary did i really engage in talking to anyone..i was real shy, and hated being left at school by my mother..the other kids probably thought i was strange or something, 'cause i was in my own little world..i opened up a little by the time i was 7 though..i mean, i was actually playing with the other kids, doing things that any normal kid at that age liked to do..of course, i don't think any of them did anything like count road stripes or telephone poles, but i was wise to limit that only when i was in the car

when i was 9 my parents pulled me out of the public school and put me in a new private school (the church we started going to) that started school that fall ('83)..i went there 8 yrs (till i graduated), and during that time skipped a grade, and graduated a year earlier (i was originally scheduled for '92)..but i was like an outcast the last 4 yrs i went there..at first, there was no problem 'cause the school was still small, but when it got to 100, i guess i started to stick out, because everyone else seemed normal to each other, not that i was weird or anything, although i was called that..i just didn't share their 'interests' and didn't joke with my peers..i was more interested in what suited me

and this was a Christian school..not that i hate my experiences and lessons there (for there were many), but the same 'Christians' that i grew up with, left me out of a lot of things, even though they tried not to be obvious about it, and these 6 peers i HAD to live my high school years with had their own little clique and i knew i would never have any part of, because i was not like them..
and that is the reason i have nothing to do with anyone i went to school with..

well for years i've kept a certain anger towards these people, and i hope to God i don't run into any of them anytime in the future..i don't know what i'd say to them..

i didn't know this was going to be a long post..sometimes it just happens that way..it's funny how far from my original point i can stray with just a few sentences, and a little scar that's been with me since my school years..i'm sure many of you have not-so-good memories of your past, school-related or not..but don't get me wrong..i have plenty of good memories too..i just have to find the outlet



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17 May 2005, 9:48 am

GH, I am pratically deaf and although I am not familar with easter seals, I was put into a hearing impaired program at Millridge Elementary School.

I'm going to try to answer some of your questions. . .

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1)....Things they may remember?

There were about 100 students in the MCHI (Millrige Centre for the Hearing Impaired) and it was attached to the main school by a wing. Most of the kids had some addtional disablitys but it was focused on Hearing and Speech disablitys. I actually had quite a good experience (other than my 2nd grade teacher who was terrible) and I have many good memories of school, at least until 4th grade, when I was mainstreamed. ::shudder::
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2)....Techniques used to allow learning?

Very very small classes of 10 or less students. I remember that they had dedicated audiologists and speech pathologists, and all students in the wing had to see them at least twice a week. The speech pathologists had niffty state of the art technology (such as palate sensors to find your tongue location) and other cool stuff. Speech therapy was fun, not really work.
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3)....Type of Students they may remember

hmmm. . . . .a lot of students had more than just a hearing impairment, such as spina bifda and other developmental problems. If you mean if they were nice to everyone, most of them were pretty much inert in their socil lifes until they could speak intelligably for other students to understand them. I think this is the main reason my AS went unnoticed in those years. when I hit mainstream, most students just didn't care, as they had seen more than their share of disabled students and weren't interested in me in any case, except I was a very large guy.

I hope this begins to answer your questions, GH.


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20 May 2005, 1:29 am

I was in special ed, mainstream, and institution schools. I didn't like any of them.

Easter Seals provides my supported living services:

http://centralcal.easterseals.com/site/ ... _supported



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20 May 2005, 1:47 am

...And I thought I had a crappy time in school. Though in retrospect, high school went relatively well.