need help with science fair projects-8th grade
I'm in the 8th grade, and we have our science fair projects coming up. it's worth 930 points, so if i fail this, i fail science. I need to have the idea end by next Monday (January 14)
your gonna think I'm crazy, but I'm hoping to do something involving Quantum physics.
HOLD ON BEFORE YOU TELL ME I"M TOO YOUNG TO UNDERSTAND IT!! ! I understand it! I'm reading a book by some British buy with an Israeli sounding name. it's called "QUANTUM A GUIDE FOR THE PERPLEXED" and I hope to follow it as a career.
the requirements are mainly that it's a question. and we answer it. and we actually do an experiment. we should have a hypothesis and the rest is the obvious requirements.
originally I was going to do the question "is light a wave or a particle" because the young experiment (which resulted in a interference pattern ) says it's a wave, but Einstein's photoelectric effect says it's a particle. and I can't recreate the photoelectric effect, i don't have the money ( you need gold leaf, and I probably shouldn't handle dry ice, and there is other stuff my science teacher probably wouldn't allow in the classroom)
so if you have any ideas or websites it would be awesome for you to tell me.
because I don't know any, and they wouldn't be able to help, they may be experts but they would have to explain it, since it would probably over my head, a little. and then i couldn't make a hypothesis about it because they would have explained to me the answer
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http://www.abc.net.au/science/sleekgeeks/
Don't know if this will help. These two guys have a show called Sleek Geeks. Adam Spencer has a maths degree and is an Aussie radio/tv personality.
Dr Carl (can't for the life of me spell his name) is a medical doctor by training, but is a science media personality.
Maybe you can get ideas from here.
Helen
Just another idea...why not pick up a copy of the magazine, "Popular Science" found on any news stand or in the magazine
section of stores like "Barnes and Noble?" It may give you some ideas for your science project.
My nephew just started Cornell University as a first year Engineering student and began reading "Popular Science" magazine
as a 10 year old kid interested in physics and math. Now, at Cornell, he hopes to specialize in robotics.
thanks to all, but none really work. really sorry
I have to be able to conduct tests, with variables and stuff. from the look of the sleek geeks i can't get that.
I'm already subscribed to PopSci I've been getting it since March 2006. I have only checked the most recent ones for projects though.
thank you for the help though!
Too late, I suppose, that I now read this. Not that I'd have what you wanted.
You mention the photoelectric effect and gold leaf and so on. Why do you imagine that is required, though? Consider a vacuum tube diode. You may consider the idea of applying some heat to generate thermally agitated electrons near the cathode, but think about keeping the temperature at ambient for a moment before worrying about that. In the vacuum tube, there are very few free electrons. You place a voltage between cathode and anode to encourage any that exist to move towards the anode. No noticeable current flows. Now, flood the cathode with an intense UV light -- say, from a mercury vapor lamp which is very cheap to buy (do NOT allow that light to reach you; use it only in an enclosed volume) -- and observe the sudden flow of current due to the UV photons exceeding the metal's work function. (I doubt much shorter wavelengths will be present, as the 254nm light is already harder to pass through glass and much shorter wavelengths will be quite reduced by any intervening glass.) Now use an argon light source, let it warm up a bit, and filter it through heavy glass to ensure no UV passes (some argon lamps are really mercury-argon so watch out for that) in and, if you can provide some colored glass to pass through to further ensure shorter wavelengths are removed from the source. If you limit the wavelength of the photons so that they are below the work function of the cathode's metal, you should see no measurable current flowing. LEDs might be another choice for light sources, though they are wide-band emitters. The nice thing about them is that a red LED definitely will NOT emit any UV. Lasers might be another choice, if the school has them.
It might be interesting for you to consider also the idea of using the heater on the vacuum tube to adjust the base level of current due to thermal agitation and, if you can arrange things so that you can select the light's wavelength precisely (grating, beam splitter, thin film filters, tunable lasers, etc) then you might see how adding thermal agitation is convolved with the work function of the metal and the wavelengths you use. Might be some interesting hypotheses to consider, there. Also, think about ways to measure and standardize the power of your applied light. How might you create a beam that directly strikes the cathode target with a known energy per unit time level? In other words, can you set things up so that the UV beam's power is the same as the red beam's and hits approximately similar areas on the cathode? (Is it important to worry about the area impacted or the beam power?) What metals have appropriate work functions for near optical wavelengths such as say 254nm and 670nm light to test the idea? Can these metals be found in some cheap vacuum tube? Are cathodes better or worse than anodes, for this purpose (should you perhaps reverse the connections and apply the negative side of the voltage to the anode instead, because the anode is made of a more optimal metal than the cathode, for example?)
I'd suggest to you that you don't need gold, here, and that there are relatively cheap ways to test this.
Also, you could drop all that and instead try and compute Planck's constant as the slope of a line you develop by observing different colored LEDs with very simple and cheap experimental equipment that anyone can readily afford. Different, but certainly related.
Jon
P.S. Note that the work function of a lot of metals is too high for most visible light to be much use. Sodium and potassium have pretty low work functions (still well above that of many red LEDs, though), but they are easily oxidized metals and not often found in vacuum tubes as electrodes. This is why mercury vapor lamps are often used, since the 254nm line of mercury provides almost 4.9 eV per photon, which is high enough to actually work with some common metals like iron or aluminum. You mentioned gold and I just checked its work function, which is about 5.1 eV. That's too high even for that mercury vapor line, so you'd be pressed to find a bright source for the <243nm light you'd need with gold.
