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Norah_W
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10 Jan 2008, 2:03 am

flailure wrote:

I would be far more comfortable seeking grants for business opportunities for those with AS than having the government pay me to be a hermit. This is, of course, my own personal perspective, because I do realize that some people might have more trouble coping with society than others.

Oh, and pardon my ignorance, to which country are we referring?

If there were smaill businesses we could start where we didn't have to deal with people at all, or with trying to communicate, I would love to start something like that. However, I don't believe there is such a thing. I've worked for 27 years exept for 1-1/2 years I took off in which I used my own money to survive. I've only been on unemployment twice, for very short periods of time and the last time I got laid off I think I collected $52 of unemployment. Large corporations get tax breaks all the time even if they pollute and/or fire employees at will and send jobs overseas.

I'm just getting so sick of people putting down people who go on disability for something like Asperger's in which they have so much trouble just trying to communicate in order to do their job that they are so stressed out after that they con't do anything else, just go to work and sleep. I HATE it when people havea to apply THEIR life to someone else, and Aspies are as likely to do this as NT"s which is even more frustrating. I didn't frakking ASK to be born an Aspie. I didn't ASK to then be an only child in a family where, even if I had had friends, I might not have been able to socialize with them much due to my dad's fear of germs. (And he didn't ASK to have OCD, either).

Even if I could get on disability for a year or so and maybe get some kind of retraining to get a job where I didn't have to deal with people. If there is such a thing.

Norah_W
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10 Jan 2008, 2:06 am

woodsman25 wrote:

While I make a modest $20,000-$30,000 a year and live cheaply, efficently and do fairly well for myself, I would rather continue living the way that I do working 5 days a week part time half the year and full time the other half then making all of $650 a mounth plus food stamps.

I do want help from the government when it comes to healthcare because I dont make alot maby just less then the average person in the US (bairly) and ATM while I do fine being a single homeowner who lives alone and is fortunate to have good credit so I can have nice things like a new car, washer and dryer, GPS, and nice stylish EMS clothing ect but someday what I truly want in life is a bigger, nicer house, a wife and children and $20,000-$30,000 a year wont cut it to provide decently for everyone while trying to retire (not relying on the government for that) and basicly doing all I can for my future children cause I will be happy if I can give them 1/4 what my parents gave me. Being on disability will distory all hope in the future that I have of being happy, sure I wont have to work anymore I can sit here all day long broke in my little home and will die here or I can bust ass all day long, make a reasonable income and go out and acheive the American dream and die a happy man surrounded by family that loves me in the end. Thats just me anyways...

I had a friend who was in my special ed class, he has seizures and they were serious. He lived for years off the government, made all of $650 and food stamps and I think medicare. He lived in the cheap small appartment that was discusting. He did aford a computer and partied a bit, he had a little extra money to spend but my God, nobody can go anywhere on that and he was miserable. I guess it depends on what you want in life and what will make ya happy, just think about what you really want 777 and be realistic about it. You may be entitled to that from the government, but will you really be happy and in the end will you feel you wasted your potential. I want some government assistence when it comes to healthcare, tho I never have had any assistence from the government, eather myself or my parents have provided 100% for me, when I have kids I will do everything I can to get everything possible to make their lives the best I can, even if I gotta work 12 hrs a day and never have free time.

Ok.... I think I typed enough here... sorry everyone for my rants.

I don't know what 777 wants or how long they've worked, but I've worked for 27 years with constant fear of being fired for not being social/not being liked/not fitting in, with constant reminders how different I am and how no one likes me and I'm sick of it. I don't want to have to keep being reminded of this any more. I've tried this. Why am I such a bad, awful person for wanting to go on disability for awhile? I never ever begrudged anyone else doing so while I've been working and paying taxes.

Norah_W
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10 Jan 2008, 2:08 am

yesplease wrote:

Silver_Meteor wrote:

I like to work for my money 777.

Disability encompasses more than just payments from a state/government body and includes programs that can help an individual classified as such find work and get help in other arenas.

That's really what I would like, I think, retraining for a job in which I would have to deal with people a lot less. Or a grant or at least some help or training in setting up a small business of some kind, again with little contact with others so that there wouldn't be the danger of constantly being misunderstood, told that I didn't tell the full story and being accused of holding things back, etc., etc.

Boutique
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10 Jan 2008, 2:11 am

Norah_W wrote:

Even if I could get on disability for a year or so and maybe get some kind of retraining to get a job where I didn't have to deal with people. If there is such a thing.

I sell online, and that could be one option for other Aspies. I do have to deal with people, but not for every transaction, and only via e-mail. It really is tons better than having to communicate with people face to face or on the telephone. It allows me to take as much time as I need to formulate appropriate messages and proofread them a few times before sending if necessary. It also allows me a lot of flexibility with my time. I can choose what tasks to work on when and for how long.

Norah_W
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10 Jan 2008, 2:24 am

Boutique wrote:

Norah_W wrote:

Even if I could get on disability for a year or so and maybe get some kind of retraining to get a job where I didn't have to deal with people. If there is such a thing.

That does sound good and is something I've thought of. At least there wouldn't be a boss to answer too or worry about why he wasn't answering your questions, such as what I have now. I'm not quite sure what would sell enough to make a living though....

Boutique
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10 Jan 2008, 2:32 am

Norah_W wrote:

I'm not quite sure what would sell enough to make a living though....

That's one of the challenges, but you can start experimenting and gaining experience with this in your spare time whether or not you're working a regular job. I started out selling online when I was pregnant with my son and working two jobs. I started by just selling extra items from around the house that we didn't need. I quickly discovered that I was really cut out for online selling. Maybe you are too. There is only one way to find out.

UncertainUltradian
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10 Jan 2008, 7:48 am

I've always loved the idea of trading, but I have never known enough about "how it works" to consider starting. It seems to me that if it was as easy as buying stuff from one place and selling it to another, everyone would be doing it, and therefore it must be vastly more complex than I think. I have no idea though.

I agree with Norah_W despite its barrage of consecutive posts. I am 20 and have yet to find a job. I tried going to college once but I dropped out because communication was so stressful. I would get confused and write essays about the wrong thing, and once I was asked what kind of music I liked when there were other people in the room and I basically lost control due to the pressure.

I have been living off government funding and my parents. However, rather than "doing nothing" I have created what I consider to be wonderful things in that time. I hate the idea that work doesn't count unless you're technically employed. I have been working hard for years to create advanced and impressive things, and the government pays me. It seems to me that this is better than sitting at a counter selling plastic to throngs of bored NTs, becoming more and more depressed with each passing day, just to become more legitimate in the eyes of society.

The problem with this is that the things I create are based on what I think is important or what I'm interested in, so nobody else really seems interested in them. They just continue to put me in therapy so I might finally cope with a normal job.

Should I do what I do best, developing rare wonders that nobody wants, or is it better to be a cog in the self-destructive machine just because a misguided society says so? I don't get it.

People complain that they have to pay tax towards the unemployed, whereas if they didn't they would just be spending it on new kitchens and new cars and new throwaway mobile phones. Surely it's better to pay for my food? I'd rather use their money for something good than as an excuse to help develop fancy bits of plastic in an office.
Even if I do get a job, the money my employer is paying me with is the consumer's money, is it not? The same money that the government uses to pay unemployed people with?

Either they pay for my food through the government and I make wonderful things that I love making, or they go to the shops and buy hundreds of pounds worth of unnecessary junk that they already have so I can sit there and do the work of a robot, processing their new junk through the till. Either way, they lose money. They lose more if they want the junk. I do not see their logic.

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11 Jan 2008, 12:52 am

I am working now, but I might go for an official diagnosis and would look into being on disability. It's not that I don't want to work, but I could help with job search assistance and career training. Maybe food stamps which would help me save money to pay for my own health insurance plan.

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14 Jan 2008, 6:41 pm

I'm way ahead of you. I've been on disability for months.

0hanrahan
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15 Jan 2008, 11:17 am

Scratch my reply... opportunities and better times are just ahead. However, I would be interested in grants for a business startup.

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21 Jan 2008, 6:30 pm

There are two sides...obviously...

I too have always believed in working...I have worked since I was 14 (yes, not legally yet) and I am now 39...Not a single year that I have not worked. I have worked at my job for 18+ years now...

However, I do have to say that it seems that it is getting harder on me. It seems that when I was younger, it was easier to deal with work...Ok, I'm no babe or anything, but guys were really nice to me when I began my job and they all thought I was 14, when I was actually 23...but after I got married, had a kiddo, moved away...well, it seems they are not as nice to me as they once were. What they thought was "cute" about me before (hard working, always told the truth, etc...) they no longer consider it cute and it actually makes them angry.

Women, well, most have never liked me anyway...and because I'm 39 and usually told I look 27 or so, they hate me even more...

With a son diagnosed as AS, which I homeschool now, plus where we live, etc...the stress has taken it's toll and I honestly don't feel I can function as well at my job as I was before...

With that said, I'll probably quit my job, but I don't think I could ever receive money from them for myself. With my son, well, I do not receive anything for him, however, he is eligible and it kills me because I don't need the money, but if he were on medicare, he could have therapies that we currently cannot afford because our insurance does not cover them.

catch 22...

Brittany2907
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24 Jan 2008, 11:41 pm

777 wrote:

If you have AS with other disorders present, you qualify for disability in this country. Apply now!

While I am on disability, I don't share your enthusiasm about it, 777.
It doesn't feel good to be using others taxes, to pay for myself to do nothing all day. You may be thinking..."Why doesn't she just get a job?"....well, when you have no qualifications even at a high school level, severe anxiety and barely anything to put on your CV...it's not so easy to be employed.
Believe me, I have tried working...one time in the middle of work, I couldn't take it and walked out and walked all the way home. You can imagine how that stood with the boss...I was fired.
Hopefully in a few months time, I will be able to get a job...as when I think of others who are working, just so I can sit at home, I am guilty.

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25 Jan 2008, 2:48 pm

well Brittany2907, i'm pretty much in the same position as you. i'm on disability too, i'm 27 i had 4 jobs, including the grocery industry which i quit after being threatened on being fired. I also did ecommerce (selling products online) and did very well made some good money, of course it's different when your not fresh out of high school. in the 27-28 years of my life i'v had many traumatic events that caused me to get on disability. I cant even talk to people now, really bad anxiety i get, and actually it depends on where you live, on how much you get from disability, i get over $900 a month and believe me that isnt enough when cost of rent is $1200+. I don't feel bad about getting it, cause i feel like I worked my ass off, and i experienced so much crap from the job industry that i'm perfectly fine with getting it. Of course kind of sucks as well cause you can't make any money while on disability. I would like to sell products online again, but knowing that i'll lose my disability if i did that, and of course i'm so tired of everything, dont have the energy to even work.

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