Personality Tests - Discrimination against the nuerodiverse

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Unfortunately, these types of tests are quite slanted, and as an Aspie you need to know how to answer the questions to fit what they are looking for. This can often be difficult to do, given many Aspie's have a strong honesty streak and find answering differently than they really feel not an option. Still, we sometimes need to play the game just to get the job…

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I failed one at taco-bell when I was 16 first looking for work. "sorry I just don't think you would fit in here"... lol

I took a look at that Unicru personality test. Clearly its highly stacked against aspies. You would have to learn how to game the test to pass it.

All this stuff is just my option.
I studied Socionics about a decade ago, it's much like Myers Briggs, basically it looks like they are looking for an ESFJ, that's a typical outgoing neurotypical like the Ned Flanders character below, they are especially common in women.

I think the premise of the test is to find how anESFJ would answer the questions. Most aspies would test out INTJ almost dead opposite of that.

You could use Socionics personality theory to reverse engineer the test. With that it would make it easy to adapt to any test changes and maybe find some easy cheats to pass.
Model A as it is called. http://www.socionika.com/model.html
And this youtube part 1 and 2 more details on the model.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_6WaMHfDME
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf9J4Ruz8Vs

I started working on it but ran out of time
http://socionika.com/UT.html

The only answers that get counted towards your "score" are Strongly Agree or Strongly Disagree. So if you answer anything else you will "fail". This is from a lady at a temp agency.

That would make sense

I am quite familiar with the theory behind these personality test and now realizing it is being widely used by many employers explains the bizarre things I have noticed over the last several years.

I have seen it in retail stores and other online help things.
By having a uniform non neurodiverse workforce, the compliant sheep variety, the employer feels they have gained a trouble free workforce. But there is a strange side to this, the workforce is completely incapable of solving any problems alone or together, calling them dumber than a pile of rocks would be an accurate statement. It is very frustrating if you have to deal with them, it becomes clear it is truly an exercise in futility. It is my opinion this has a kind of degenerative rotting effect for the employer. It has that dirt poor third world feel.

That made me literally laugh out loud.

I've tried to give employers the answers that I think they want, but I still fail them

Whenever employers ask you to fill out an application, they want the truth. These tests are discriminatory. I find it difficult most of the 'personality tests' presented to us because they want to know the real you without any personality itself, not the image they expect you to have.

I think I misunderstood the question, as I assumed it was talking about Meyer-Briggs type tests--which are stupid but not really discriminatory. I wasn't aware that personality tests were part of the hiring process and not just inane "team building" activities. But yeah, the world is definitely geared towards extroverts--even NT introverts don't get the same level of acceptance as extroverted NTs.

If this is the level I have to sink to in order to "get the job", then I would rather not work for such a company. Any idiot with half a brain can clearly see that these tests are specifically designed to weed us out, to discriminate in favour of morons who like to waste the company's time engaging in office politics and gossip, and all for the sake of being a "team player" and "fitting in".
I have only ever been confronted with one example of such a test (in Australia they are still relatively unknown), and I knew what the "correct" answers to the questions were, even though the meaningless disclaimer told me there were "no correct answers to the test" (yeah, right). Of course there are correct answers, ones that they want you to give. I still gave honest answers to the questions though, because I simply do not accept the belief that so many employers seem to have about us that, because of our lack of social skills, we aren't fit to work. It's called "work" for a very good reason - we are there to do a job. What else?!

Don't bother trying to pretend to be someone you are not. If, by some miracle, you managed to tell them what they wanted to hear and ended up being employed by them, you would very quickly become miserable due to the very nature of extrovert-NT workplaces where everyone jokes around, gossips, and generally behaves like a baboon. I've had so many jobs like that, and in the end I came to the realisation that I would rather be poor, hungry and unemployed than have to put up with that kind of s**t.

Bloody hell, some of the questions/statements on that silly Unicru personality test:

* Any trouble you have is your own fault. The "correct" answer is strongly agree, but no, I don't agree.
* When your friends need help, they call you first. I don't have any friends, but again, the way to answer this is to "strongly agree".
* You are somewhat of a thrill-seeker. How the hell is this even relevant?
* You chat with people you don't know. Why on Earth would I do a thing like that? What purpose would it serve? It's creepy when someone (ex. in a queue) just starts chatting to me. I just want them to stop, and leave me the hell alone! THAT is the normal response to what is, quite frankly, weird behaviour.
* You have no big regrets about your life. Only a sociopath or psychopath could answer this one with an honest 'strongly agree'.

Ugh! The people responsible for junk like this are insane. Tests like these are nothing more than examples of pop psychology at its very worst.

Yes! I wanted to work at Petco once because I love animals and actually have some experience working with them, but I failed their "online assessment" so they wouldn't even interview me and give me a chance. Same happened with Petsmart. I don't understand how people do them and manage to get hired.

See, this is the kicker. I just did one of these tests and not even for a single moment did it occur to me to just baldly LIE. I could see the answers I was giving were probably not what they were after, as anyone who admits to liking time alone is immediately seen by normal people as a threat/weirdo/mental-case, but it did not even occur to me to give answers that were not true just because this was what the examiner wanted to hear.
I have a great deal of difficulty explaining this to people and it's beginning to seriously piss me off. People just LIE. Needlessly. All the time. About everything. And when I say I don't lie - if something is untrue and I know it to be untrue I cannot say that it is true - I get stupid speeches about how I need to grow up, learn to play the game, because otherwise I'll never get anywhere in life and it'll all be my fault because lying your arse off is apparently a basic prerequisite for life and telling the truth is a childish character flaw.
That doesn't make me Jim Carey in "Liar, Liar" - I don't compulsively blurt out the truth about absolutely everything uncontrollably - I usually keep my mouth shut or if asked about a topic I want to keep private, I will say I am not willing to answer that question or speak about that topic.
I WILL NOT LIE ABOUT IT INSTEAD and I'm sick of being told I have to.

Agreed. I view disclosing I am autistic (by way of refusing to take my medical ID info off) to be the same. If you're me, it's going to be obvious eventually, even if I manage to come across as "together" at an interview. Employers need to know this about me. They need to know that is going to be part of my behaviour and thinking. Trying to hide it just to make a good first impression only leads to people being hostile tenfold later, when they realize what I'm really like and then behave as if I have tricked them into thinking I'm normal when instead I'm a useless autistic.