How can I calm down before giving a speech in public

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20 Jan 2017, 11:17 am

^^^
It seems to be quite effective from all reports. And with few side effects. :D



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20 Jan 2017, 11:19 am

^^^
And it seems to be quite effective from all reports...and with few side effects...sounds great.



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20 Jan 2017, 7:57 pm

ZenDen wrote:
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Obviously breathing techniques and relaxation are better, but people with extreme anxiety can try something that works like magic for me - beta-blocker propranolol. It massively reduces all physical symptoms of anxiety, I sometimes have one if I'm supposed to be in a large group of people or before a massively stressful day at work. I couldn't control my anxiety with anything else - my mind was calm, but body was a sweaty, shaky mess with a pulse way over 100 and the longer I was in that state, the more I wanted to run away. I couldn't process what people were telling me, couldn't understand questions, horrible embarrassing moments.
Propranolol, in the U.S. is usually used to treat heart conditions. It is not a "mood" drug and has significant side effects.

I seriously doubt an American doctor will prescribe these for the conditions stated. Rather a General Physician, in the States, will refer you to a doctor specializing in mood disorders. GB must do such things differently.
Good thing I don't live in America :lol:


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20 Jan 2017, 8:04 pm

I have a lot of anxiety, resulting from the anxious feeling that I'm not good at my job and I'm not as good as other people and not as talented as other people and don't work as hard as other people and that I don't deserve to enjoy myself.

And I get super anxious when people see me make a mistake or people see me forget something or people see me being clumsy. And I get anxious when I think about the poor financial decisions I've made in the past and how they've set me ten years behind my peers and how I can never catch up and how I wouldn't be in this mess if only I'd been smart like them. All this makes me really loathe myself.

Would Propranolol help with that?


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21 Jan 2017, 5:35 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
I have a lot of anxiety, resulting from the anxious feeling that I'm not good at my job and I'm not as good as other people and not as talented as other people and don't work as hard as other people and that I don't deserve to enjoy myself.

And I get super anxious when people see me make a mistake or people see me forget something or people see me being clumsy. And I get anxious when I think about the poor financial decisions I've made in the past and how they've set me ten years behind my peers and how I can never catch up and how I wouldn't be in this mess if only I'd been smart like them. All this makes me really loathe myself.


I have a hard time too, I'm smart, fine, but I feel everyone else puts more work in than me, and just understand what they're being asked more. I haven't managed to get any job, and essentially everyone around me really wants me to get a job. I've got a sister who can just be horrible. My parents I don't feel understand my situation much. I'm falling behind in maths now, and I'm struggling to keep up with enrichment and similar things.

Even worse, this morning, the letter came through for the geography trip I really want to go on, and its £600 roughly. My dad is fine with paying it as long as "I try to talk to people more and start more conversations and get a job".

I'm stuk in a situation now where I feel like I'll owe him hundreds or I have to be social with essentially total strangers.



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21 Jan 2017, 6:09 am

Things like breathing and the like might not work for everyone. If its mentally that you see the difficulty is coming from, then change the thoughts going on through your mind to a positive state. If you fear a negative public reaction, can think or expect a positive reaction even if not so and then the speech goes easier



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21 Jan 2017, 6:44 am

LjSpike wrote:
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I have a lot of anxiety, resulting from the anxious feeling that I'm not good at my job and I'm not as good as other people and not as talented as other people and don't work as hard as other people and that I don't deserve to enjoy myself.

And I get super anxious when people see me make a mistake or people see me forget something or people see me being clumsy. And I get anxious when I think about the poor financial decisions I've made in the past and how they've set me ten years behind my peers and how I can never catch up and how I wouldn't be in this mess if only I'd been smart like them. All this makes me really loathe myself.
I have a hard time too, I'm smart, fine, but I feel everyone else puts more work in than me, and just understand what they're being asked more. I haven't managed to get any job, and essentially everyone around me really wants me to get a job. I've got a sister who can just be horrible. My parents I don't feel understand my situation much. I'm falling behind in maths now, and I'm struggling to keep up with enrichment and similar things.

Even worse, this morning, the letter came through for the geography trip I really want to go on, and its £600 roughly. My dad is fine with paying it as long as "I try to talk to people more and start more conversations and get a job".

I'm stuk in a situation now where I feel like I'll owe him hundreds or I have to be social with essentially total strangers.
When I have time I should make a thread about anguish resulting from comparing oneself to other people.


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21 Jan 2017, 8:17 am

I suck at public speeches myself.

Sometimes, "just winging it" works quite well for me. Use your accumulated knowledge of the subject.

There's no use comparing yourself to other people. Some are better off, others are worse off. Such is life.



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02 Feb 2017, 6:54 am

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Actually, Propranolol is used across a variety of countries for anxiety I believe. It can be used to treat heart conditions and/or anxiety symptoms. I suspect using methods other than medication where possible are better in the long run though. I believe the reason for its use in anxiety is it can slow your heartbeat (hence why people with a low heartbeat shouldn't take it). Obviously, that allows it to treat multiple physical symptoms of anxiety, which stem from increased bloodflow, however shouldn't effect your clarity of thought to much.


In the UK you can get it even from an online doctor after a fill-in-the-form consultation - for performance anxiety or migraines. I started from the usual GP route but now just buy some whenever I need them. My ex boyfriend was taking it for severe agoraphobia when he'd literally shake and sweat without propranolol up to the point of a panic attack in public. It does not affect thoughts at all, but in a way if I can see/feel my body is super calm my mind thinks "not anxious" and I can get on with my life.
Physical anxiety symptoms can really feel overwhelming and start off a vicious loop - omg my heart, I'm feeling dizzy, I want to run away... that thinking worsens the symptoms... "I'm going to pass out"... One tablet stops the whole thing or really reduces its severity. I tried SSRI antidepressants but they weren't even touching the physical anxiety symptoms, at the very beginning even made them worse and that was a rollercoaster in hell.

I really didn't think it would work for me, but I was surprised. I only take 10mg maybe once or twice a week before a stressful event. Sorted. 40mg would probably make my blood pressure spiral down, so I wouldn't go near it. My boyfriend was taking 80mg... always check with your Dr first.

If your main problem is anxious thoughts then most likely it will have no effect :/