Is it obvious to you that looks play a role in who's hired?

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Anyone who looks like she usually gets big tips.

wow you sound really bitter. So you can just know if someone gets big tips? How do you gather that information? What concludes that someone is pretty to you? Is it a body type? Hair, eyes, skin tone? If someone is doing a good job waiting on you, regardless of what they look like you should tip. People are doing this role reversal backlash alot and in the process being really rude to people who did nothing to them and had no intention to but because they were petite and the rude person was bigger, it seems that it's A-okay to mess with and put down a thin person.

So okay, people have been going to Oprah for a long time spreading bully awareness and I see that it's because they really felt left out and actually wanted to be bullies too but just didn't know how. This is where alot of movements go wrong. They start off with this false disguise of we just want you to stop bullying us but then they turn around and bully which feeble minded people always retort with...oh just deal with it because I'm sure someone your size picked on her in school....yeah as if I didn't go through any s**t and back stabby wenchy behavior but because people are so stuck on the outside, they fail to see what is inside.

If you are someone who is bitter towards a girl for being petite which it's very common for that to be the criteria of females being rude to other women if they aren't petite themselves...you are no better than anyone who has ever pissed on you.

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BEWARE! Always keep happy the handler of your food. If you don't tip a waitress and you get that waitress again you have a considerable chance of "unexpected" ( and unusual) ingredients being added. (spit, used gum, etc.)

I think waitressing and bartending has to do more with personality than looks. Sure I am not going to deny that the places the young people hang at are the ones most likely to have attractive service people.

However my aunt was a waitress for a number of years as was a friend of mine. They both were incredibly good at establishing rapport with their daily customers which makes up the bulk of the restaurtant/bartender service industry. In short if your good at entertaining people and making thier dining experience a pleasant one it's not going to matter as much if your not modelesque.

Interesting trick nature plays. Beauty allows people to do mediocre work because people are naturally more forgiving towards the beautiful people. I don't necessarily see that as a blessing.

Don't be silly. There are variations in taste, but you act as if there were no agreement on physical beauty. We can all recognize conventional good looks when we see them.




I think it is human nature to reward beauty before merit. If I tried to be objective and "fair" I would probably fail. Rather than trust my own judgment, I choose to overcompensate by rewarding ugliness instead. Also, it is my money and I will do with it what I please.

I know what conventional beauty is but I also am aware that not all people have the same ideas of what beauty is.
Those conventional ideas of beauty are that way due to mass marketing of cookie cutter shapes, hair color, eye color, facial structure and so on.

This is par for the course. If you are fat and relatively unattractive you are going to have a harder time finding a job. Research studies have indicated this to be true. What I would do is go to the gym, change my diet, and develop a fitness program.

I don't think it's really attractiveness that counts (save for a few really superficial professions like public relations and advertising), but I think it's the livelong influence that your appearance has on your personality. If you're an attractive person, or at least grow up believing you're attractive, you're more likely to develop the charm and platonic flirting skills that really win over strangers. You're used to people smiling at you, so you smile at everyone else.

People who are less objectively attractive or who don't feel attractive are less likely to dress in a flattering style or put energy into grooming, they can begin to expect that people won't be attracted to them, so they don't smile or flirt. And those are the things that people really respond to. Sure, it helps if you've got the perfect figure and perfectly symmetrical, 1.6:1 ratio facial features, but there are tons of people who aren't objectively attractive (look at half of the models and actors out there) who wear attractive clothes, style their hair, and walk around like they know they're attractive - and people respond to that, too.

I read about a study several years ago which found that the more physically attractive people are to a hiring manager, the more likely they are to be hired and paid more money for a job. Sucky but true.

I have made several observations like this...

For example...corner store owners (in NZ) are generally male Indians.

Bus Drivers are generally over-weight.

People who work in retail are generally slim.

Receptionists are normally female.

Models are usually too skinny.

People who work in bakery's are normally Asian.

Pet store workers usually have light skin

These are just observations though...I am probably incorrect about some of these things but it is what I have observed.

Where do you live?

Sometimes good looks, especially in women, can pigeon-hole a person into a lower-level position simply because of stereotypes (i.e. dumb blonds). I have blue eyes and blond hair, and I am frequently looked at as "naive" or not as intelligent as everyone else. Men are especially patronizing to me, which I find incredibly annoying and obnoxious.

While you might get higher positions, there are always men who look down on you and expect you to "pay them back" by flirting and acting like you enjoy their creepy behavior. You have to go the extra mile to "prove" you're not a complete idiot, and even then you aren't given the proper level of respect.

Then there are the hateful people who assume that because society views you as attractive you must have the perfect, magical life with a rich man who takes care of everything. So obviously, they have to be the ones to snap you out of your fantasy life by being difficult and condescending.

I really really despise how people are treated based on their looks - it can be a double edged sword no matter how you look at it. It's ridiculous and shallow. People should be given respect regardless of their appearance.

I can work out until the cows come home and that won't change my metabolism, genetics or my face. I'll still be ugly and overweight. Going to the gym isn't a quick fix.

people should be judged on things like their personality and skills when job searching.
it sucks that looks are placed so highly above these things.

Looks definitely play a big part in just about every job industry(In terms of who the firm will hire) but having a good personality is more important 80=90% of the time.

So if you aren't good looking and you don't have a good personality then you can very likely get "hosed."

Well, on the plus side you won't have to have a horrible job in a restaurant.
From what I've seen observing the recruitment process in places I've worked in, looks didn't seem to play a role, but being well groomed and well dressed did because it implies togetherness and attention to detail... and just that you cared enough about getting the job that you bothered to get dressed up.

Regarding weight I think some people think fat ---> does no exercise ----> lazy. Ironic because its a pretty lazy assumption.