Aspergers independence poll (might be controversial)

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Do you think it's possible for ALL Aspies to become financially independent and live in their own house?
Yes. 22%  22%  [ 39 ]
No. 13%  13%  [ 22 ]
Yes, they just have to get off their asses and do something with their lives! 13%  13%  [ 23 ]
No, some aspies just aren't "wired" to join the workforce and meet the requirements which allows people to become independent. 52%  52%  [ 90 ]
Total votes : 174

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30 May 2008, 12:27 pm

Of course an Aspie can be living independently (both in practice and financially).

I must say I never had issues myself to find work so far, I have lived and worked in 5 countries now and ever since my first job I have never been unemployed for more than a week or two. Administering finances is something I sometimes struggle with, mainly because my OCD sometimes causes extra costs, but this is improving as well. With living on my own and finding/keeping a job, I never had issues.


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06 Jun 2008, 11:23 pm

F-16 wrote:

Don't say that. I want to be independent! (I just lack the financial (and probably social) assets to do so...)

No offense, if you're fine with being dependant, good for you. I just don't want to be...


You assume people who are in a dependent situation want to be that way. I don't think any human being wants to depend on others for their survival. It can be done with Asperger's, as evidenced by the people on this board who have eked out a successful existence, it's just that they are in the minority.


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06 Jun 2008, 11:26 pm

I picked fourth only because it was the only non-absolute answer.


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06 Jun 2008, 11:51 pm

I think that most people with JUST Aspergers (that has the classic symptoms) will at least struggle to get a job. Add depression, anxiety, bipolar, or other disorders and it's virtually impossible 8O



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27 Nov 2015, 12:43 pm

patrick6 wrote:
Do you think it's possible for ALL Aspies to become independent? (Financial and housing independence)



I figured I'd start this poll since so many people have just looked past my aspergers and told me that I should "just get a job". It really drives me nuts when people tell me this. Perhaps it is easy to say "get a job", but in reality it is not easy for me to get a job, or at least not easy for me to get a job I'd last very long at.

I figure it can be rough for aspies and NTs alike, it's just that most NTs are better at networking and doing - imho, at least - less-than-ethical things to get ahead (like family connections, which I think is biased bs). Honestly though, it's definitely far from impossible - I'm a total recluse and a social wreck, who's afraid to even walk out the front door sometimes, and yet I still got offered a decent warehousing job at Sherwin-Williams less than two weeks after what was perhaps the best interview of my life; I start no later than December 7 of this year (hopefully). So to anyone who's doubtful of their prospects, I simply say: keep trying! And whatever you do, DO NOT get discouraged when things go bad (I got fired from my last job after working there for only six weeks, and I wish that for the last month I had encouraged myself a little more and pushed myself a little harder, but at least I'm getting something soon). Don't give up guys - it's gonna be alright! :wink:


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27 Nov 2015, 2:58 pm

^^ This thread is over 7 1/2 years old----NOT that it's not a still relevant topic----it's just that the person you are quoting, has been long gone, from here, and I thought you'd like to know.













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27 Nov 2015, 3:27 pm

Believe it or not (If I'm not mistaken), I've seen the OP post recently....within a couple of months ago.



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27 Nov 2015, 8:49 pm

Their Profile says they haven't posted since: 26 Sep 2008, 12:42 pm, or I wouldn't have said that.













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27 Nov 2015, 11:27 pm

I've noticed an unusually high amount of old threads are re-surfacing - especially in the love and dating section.



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29 Nov 2015, 4:04 am

CottlestonPie wrote:
I voted no, not because of AS, because there are not enough jobs to go around. Not everyone is going to be financially independent, AS or not.


Sometimes AS can be a problem, sometimes it isn't. I have a subsidized job (part of the salary is paid by an employment service, the rest by the employer) but I can live independently. I think I can also work independently, but due to stigma of the employer it results into underemployment. I want to do something about it, soon.

I can work 41 hours a week, live independently and have some evening activities after work.

People with AS that could work independently in the past, can no longer do that, because there is too little work, and employers can have high requests to people looking for a job. That is because there are many of them so they have a lot to choose. I think it is harder to have autism in the world of jobs than it was in the past.



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29 Nov 2015, 7:56 pm

I think it may be possible for all to be independent, but I don't think independence is the best situation for all of them. In the case of my AS boyfriend, he was independent prior to and during the early stage of our relationship, but he wasn't able to progress into an Aspie-friendly career so we made the mutual decision to have him stay home and me be the breadwinner for the household. This means that he is "dependent" on me, so he is no longer independent. He is "able" to be independent, but in his case, it is not "best" for him to do so.

That being said, in the general populace I don't think everyone is able to be independent, so I wouldn't think everyone in the Aspie population would be either. So I voted for "no" but that's the reasoning behind it. I think many can be if they want to "pay the price" of doing so, but that the price isn't always worth it and there's probably some who can't, too.

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I've noticed an unusually high amount of old threads are re-surfacing - especially in the love and dating section.

I think the similar topics thing at the bottom of the threads contributes to that. It's easy to see a thread title that looks interesting and forget while reading through it that it was an old thread, then once it's posted on and in the current list people sometimes don't even realize it's old. :)


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30 Nov 2015, 5:58 pm

I voted no. Most humans are interdependent. Only a very select few can truly be said to live completely independent lives, and they are hermits who live off the land.

We often forget, or refuse to acknowledge, that the universe is inherently not a just place. It is a random place. Things happen in it all the time which cannot be predicted or, in some cases, even explained.

I do think that every aspie, as with every other human, can find a role in which they are contributing to society and are living the best and most productive life possible for them and their circumstances. That does not necessarily mean having a house and being financially independent (which, incidentally, doesn't even describe most non-aspies!).