Illegal Mexicans steal all the jobs where I live...

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it's like illegitimate. As long as you have a child inside a marriage, it is considered legitimate, but it doesn't have to be the husband's child.

Merle

Sure... I'm the bastard child of a British woman and an American Airman... but I did get my citizenship when I was 10.. so I are an 'Merican!... even if the U.S.Army decided to change my ethnicity to Hispanic! But that's another story... lol.

That was a cool thing to do Deaconblues!

I have a niece who went to work for a temp agency and one of her jobs took her to Nike.
Once the contract was over, they offered her a regular job at Nike.

I have heard of this sort of thing happening before... temporary or contract worker working a job for a large Corp. or the Gov. and when the contract expires they get offered a fulltime regular job doing what they were doing.

Hope something works out for you The_Cinephile... I know what it's like to be out of work... and to have the bank threatening to repossess my truck and harley.

Oh.. and Kalister... is that you in your avatar... with a beard? Nice!

Theres a subtle but, imo critical difference between deeming a persons acts illegal, and deeming the person themselves illegal.

It smacks of, and breeds dehumanization - at least thats how it comes across to me.

Their labor is illegal. Don't be obtuse.

Even sillier. Oh, I picked up a stick in my yard. The government did not sanction it, but its legal. Oh my boss made me pick up sticks at work, but it was not government sanctioned. Suddenly its illegal.

No. Don't be obtuse. Both of these events are extra-legal. Not illegal. What is illegal is remuneration for labour, to a person without legal residency, be it a work visa, residency papers or citizenship. The illegal action is solely in the hands of the agent purchasing the labour(the employer).

Want to bet? Imagine that you have a unpapered Mexican who volunteers to clean up the grounds of the catholic church where his family attends services. Hes certainly doing labour. He has a verbal(or possibly even written) contract with the parish to work for them. All that is missing in this deal is fiat currency remuneration. He might even be labouring for food and shelter. Happens all the time in the US. Nobody gets busted for it.

Because the law has nothing to say about it. His labour(of any sort) is extra legal. The government is unconcerned(meaning it has no laws written) pertaining to the actions of anyone in its borders, provided that they are not criminal in nature. ie: impaired/unlicensed driving, drug use/trafficking, theft, murder, rape, and so on. This is the very basis of your freedoms. You can do whatever you want, unless its specifically banned by law.

Still want to bet?

Say that you and I are both Americans.

Lets say I have a 1972 Stingray Corvette in mint condition.

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You have a broken guitar.



We both agree to trade straight across.

Is the government(IRS) interested in our trade? Possibly. But they have no means of taxing barter trade. And you did not make an income. Its extra legal. On the other hand, if I had traded that stingray for your house, then there is a specific law on the books pertaining to the taxation of real estate gains. The trade would be legal, but me not paying taxes on my capital gains would be illegal.

The government(and I don't mean your local senator) does not really give a damn whether you or someone with a predilection for habañero laced micturant does the labour. They just want the exchange to be taxable.

You know Fuzzy... you really didn't have to break that guitar to prove your point... although that's not illegal.. but it is a crime and a crying shame!

Hey... I got some stuff to trade you for that stingray!

Ok! But go easy on me. I'm obviously a sucker for a lousy deal.

That's a very interesting textbook lesson until you see $90K jobs eliminated by layoffs and the same job function replaced at $30K by an H1B visa recipient.

I was working with Accenture ( Anderson Consulting, that divorced it's parent company Arthur Anderson long before AA went down in the Enron fiasco) and all our jobs were 'outsourced' to India. I got to go to Pondicherry to 'teach consultants to speak like an American.' this was in the 1990's, so it is not like this is something new. Welcome to the wonderful world of Capitalism! They won over Communism, remember? Well, we are all reaping the rewards of that win.

you are not a Commie, are ya? (j/k)

Merle

Which has exactly what to do with the government? That is a corporate decision.

Thats capitalism baby!!

Dude, if you can't compete with illegals there's gotta be something wrong with you.
you speak English, that puts you in an advantage position.
use what you have!

I used to live in Italy and one thing I observed happening there.

Many illegal Polish immigrants were taking menial jobs while some LAZY unemployed local men I knew enjoyed their time sitting around the parks eating gelato.

The_Cinephile, what specific jobs are you applying for, and what does your résumé look like?

Posting in a racist thread.

If the people the had a problem with were of a different gender, it would be a sexist thread.

If the people the OP had a problem with were of a different age, it would be an ageist thread.

Now the OP knows that it is not the national origin of the people that 'steal' (he has modified that opinion since he originally posted, please notice) it is his lack of proper preparation in selling himself in the job he wants/needs.

I think the OP has come a long way towards self understanding, don't you?

Merle